Spiritual Forums

Home


Donate!


Articles


CHAT!


Shop


 
Welcome to Spiritual Forums!.

We created this community for people from all backgrounds to discuss Spiritual, Paranormal, Metaphysical, Philosophical, Supernatural, and Esoteric subjects. From Astral Projection to Zen, all topics are welcome. We hope you enjoy your visits.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to most discussions and articles. By joining our free community you will be able to post messages, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos, and gain access to our Chat Rooms, Registration is fast, simple, and free, so please, join our community today! !

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, check our FAQs before contacting support. Please read our forum rules, since they are enforced by our volunteer staff. This will help you avoid any infractions and issues.

Go Back   Spiritual Forums > Spirituality & Beliefs > Science & Spirituality

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old 16-11-2017, 02:20 AM
revolver revolver is offline
Ascender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 916
  revolver's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scommstech
Out of interest, if you believe that there is no future does that mean that for you there is no tomorrow, or any days after. If that's the case why plan anything.
As the mind body organism we have no choice but to plan for tomorrow, we are living in this dream and a tomorrow is part of that dream.
__________________
"A really egoless person is not humble at all.
He is neither arrogant nor humble; he is simply himself."
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 16-11-2017, 02:23 AM
revolver revolver is offline
Ascender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 916
  revolver's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
I've studied a lot of NDEs, and most of them (by that I mean about 90%) are contradictive to your view that there is only ''consciousness'' after death. But if those are your Buddhist views or something like that it's alright. At least it still sounds a lot better than the Christian based afterlife.
NDE's are just that near death, but not death, when you are truly dead you are dead, the chemicals that are produced by the brain makes us imagine all sorts of things.
__________________
"A really egoless person is not humble at all.
He is neither arrogant nor humble; he is simply himself."
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 16-11-2017, 12:22 PM
Scommstech Scommstech is offline
Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 53
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by revolver
NDE's are just that near death, but not death, when you are truly dead you are dead, the chemicals that are produced by the brain makes us imagine all sorts of things.
I would agree that NDE can't be see as prove of an after life, but there are many examples of people who to all intents and purposes did die and then "came" back.
I'm not too sure what actually constitutes death because medical science has fixed criteria as to death and many patients pronounced dead by the medical profession have suddenly returned to life. Even brain activity is not a sound indicator of life as again people have regained consciousness having previously shown no "recorded" brain activity.
I sometimes think that cells can go into a dormant or hibernation like stage due to shock or an abnormal event. If they stay in that state they will eventually cease to function and die. The body can then be thought of as truly dead, and decay will set in. But this may be days after the official verdict is given by the medical profession. The body I believe is under the control of something not fully understood by man. We have conveniently called it the soul but it has the power of life and death over the body. I believe that if the soul for whatever reason decides to "reactivate" the body and the cells are still capable of activation then life will again be seen in that body.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 16-11-2017, 11:03 PM
organic born organic born is offline
Ascender
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 920
  organic born's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by revolver
No, I cannot agree with that, I hold onto nothing when I die, I will be, what I was before I was born, and that is pure Consciousness, this Consciousness is the blissfulness that animates through all, its just the mind that veils it from us. The belief in an after life is just that, a belief, this belief is from the ego that never wants to die, we as the mind body organism are truly the selfish gen.
I'll be incorporating this unique experience of being physical, into the very essence of my being, along with the powerful hosts of insights that accompanies such a fascinating exposure to this intimate journey via the perceptions of a life-time.

Why would our soul bother with such an elaborate affair if it was just going to flush it upon journey's end? Are you suggesting that our soul is this trite?
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 17-11-2017, 12:17 AM
revolver revolver is offline
Ascender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 916
  revolver's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scommstech
I would agree that NDE can't be see as prove of an after life, but there are many examples of people who to all intents and purposes did die and then "came" back.
I'm not too sure what actually constitutes death because medical science has fixed criteria as to death and many patients pronounced dead by the medical profession have suddenly returned to life. Even brain activity is not a sound indicator of life as again people have regained consciousness having previously shown no "recorded" brain activity.
I sometimes think that cells can go into a dormant or hibernation like stage due to shock or an abnormal event. If they stay in that state they will eventually cease to function and die. The body can then be thought of as truly dead, and decay will set in. But this may be days after the official verdict is given by the medical profession. The body I believe is under the control of something not fully understood by man. We have conveniently called it the soul but it has the power of life and death over the body. I believe that if the soul for whatever reason decides to "reactivate" the body and the cells are still capable of activation then life will again be seen in that body.
That could be so, but unlikely, when the blood supply to the brain is cut of for more than five or so minutes it is then brain dead, it will never become alive again. Nothing magical happens to the body, in cases where people seemed dead were actually not dead, most of these NDE stories never hold up under scientific investigation, the stories are mostly exaggerated when looked into.
__________________
"A really egoless person is not humble at all.
He is neither arrogant nor humble; he is simply himself."
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 17-11-2017, 12:20 AM
revolver revolver is offline
Ascender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 916
  revolver's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by organic born
I'll be incorporating this unique experience of being physical, into the very essence of my being, along with the powerful hosts of insights that accompanies such a fascinating exposure to this intimate journey via the perceptions of a life-time.

Why would our soul bother with such an elaborate affair if it was just going to flush it upon journey's end? Are you suggesting that our soul is this trite?
Tell me, what exactly is a soul, not something you read, but your own experience.
__________________
"A really egoless person is not humble at all.
He is neither arrogant nor humble; he is simply himself."
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 17-11-2017, 12:58 AM
Scommstech Scommstech is offline
Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 53
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by revolver
Tell me, what exactly is a soul, not something you read, but your own experience.
The soul is just a man made word, used to describe something about us that we feel exists and has come to be used to describes what we believe to be our true self, not the material self that we see in the mirror.
Our true self (if you believe in creation) is good, honest, protective, all the positive things that you can't actually touch.
I would say that our true identity (soul) consists of all these things. The material you is the application of these various qualities.
Your earlier post stated that if a cell (brain) is devoid of oxygen for approx. 5 minutes it dies. Many people have been submerged in freezing water for much longer than this and recovered fully.
This actually falls in line with Einstein's E=MC^2. The translation from thought to matter depends on resonance or frequency. Cold water has a different resonance to warm water.
The scenario that you present seem to deal in black and white, were as daily, new concepts appear that are anything but black and white.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) Spiritual Forums