What is the Adam and Eve story about?

[JosephineB]

Originally Posted by NoOne

Not sure if somebody else has already mentioned this, but the archetypes in the Fall of Man / Garden of Eden are pre-Christian and are shared across many cultures.

The tree of life is the Human Body's energetic system. This is even acknowledged in Cabbala.

Adam is the Male creative principle (Shiva in Hinduism)
Eve is the female Creative principle (Shakti in Hinduism)

The Serpent is Kundalini. It can give the gift of eternal life and / or infinite knowledge. It is symbolised by the apple, because it is the fruit that is most obviously of a toroid shape, another key to the mysteries of the Universe.

The fruit of the tree of eternal life / infinite knowledge refers to the same substance that is known as Nectar/Ambrosia to the Greeks and Soma/Amrita to the Hindus. Drinking of this is what gives the gods their immortality and unlimited knowledge. It is actually liquid light, which floods the brain upon illumination.

Those that are enlightened, drink of the Soma/Nectar constantly, giving them longevity, but chiefly, intuitive knowledge and a connection the divine. The Halo shown around saints signifies this illumination, resulting from the constant flow of Soma/Nectar into the brain.


The fall of man signifies man's fall from grace, from his previous divine state into that of gross matter. The serpent is shown wrapped around the tree of life facing downwards, which signifies the fall of the Kundalini from its exalted position of contact with the divine to "slithering in the dust".

The Gnostics would agree with this explanation, though the Roman church would vehemently deny it of course.

Sorry, if this was too esoteric, but explaining these concepts properly would require several books, this is a very simplistic attempt at arriving at a synthesis of the various facts available in different cultures and religious/spiritual traditions.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[Dargor]

Originally Posted by little.nation

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Haha. They're a closely related species. With space aliens / extraterrestrials, humanity does not know the formal name for that species. We have nicknames for them (grays, reptilians) but there is no knowledge of actual species name.

Satan is one of a kind to the best of my knowledge, but could very well be the God of its own species. I do not think humanity will ever learn any of the extraterrestrial species' names.

Or perhaps Satan isn't real at all.

[little.nation]

Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight

Or perhaps Satan isn't real at all.

It is. I've witnessed the creature myself (as others have).

[SlappyMcGhee]

Originally Posted by django

Is the story of Adam and Eve about humanity wanting MORE? Not happy with what is freely offered, they believed that they were entitled to more, to what was not offered freely? And this is our problem, a kink in our makeup, our propensity to sin?

I think the apple is an analogy for knowledge?

IMO, the Adam and Eve story is a sort of a parable. A story based on a true story, but not necessarily all fact.
Think about it...God puts his prized creation in a garden, then places a forbidden fruit in it, then allows the serpent access and then goes out for coffee.....

What?......

Isn't that THE definition of a set-up?

No, we need to pay close attention to the words to decipher the meaning:
The serpent was suggesting that God is both good AND EVIL, and is holding out something on them. They did not even know what evil was, but they believed the serpent over God.
Plainly put, their sin was believing God was evil. And whatever that was, they wanted it. They wanted to have all of Gods power as well.
.....and they got it. Well not the power, but they got the evil. That is why the world is so messed up. The Father of Jesus did not curse this world.

And nearly all people still think that today. They believe that God is evil.
After all, didn't he curse people? Blind people? Kill people? Starve people?
Maim people? Send disease on them? Send enemies to slaughter and enslave them? Read the old testament...didn't he do all of that?

Or did he?

I cannot plainly explain the truth about this to you, but I gave you enough hints to lead you on the path to understanding.

[Morpheus]

Have you really studied?

Look at the situation of the Garden of God. Which also has been called, Paradise.
In contrast to the world and situation ever since, and of today.

What do you see about Paradise, and after the fall, and Adam's exile from it?

[davidmartin]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Have you really studied?

Look at the situation of the Garden of God. Which also has been called, Paradise.
In contrast to the world and situation ever since, and of today.

What do you see about Paradise, and after the fall, and Adam's exile from it?

It is possible to view the whole story as a cipher for the evolution of human consciousness. Every ancient myth and story is a piece of that. Even in ancient times there was always a belief in a previous state of paradise. Humans sometimes feel that actually existed once, like when we were living more closely to nature with a less developed reasoning ability. I think that is possible but even if that never was, there are other paradises of different kinds. Another is being in the womb or very young which could drive a sense of a previous paradise. Another is the possibility we once existed spiritually in a heavenly type of place before coming here.

The fall can be real in all sorts of ways. I mean it is true that the world is not paradise. It is very real.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by django

God said Adam and Eve could eat fruit from all the trees but one in the Garden of Eden, the tree of good and evil. If they hadn’t eaten this fruit they could have stayed in the Garden of Eden, where they had everything that they actually needed to sustain life. I am wondering if the issue is just that humans want more generally, and if this is our basic human problem?

no the problem was stated quite clearly but you strayed from it immediately: don't eat from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, lest you die. The only reason they were kicked out is because they ate it and started down the path to death; kicking them out was part of what had to happen next if anything at all could be salvaged.

eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil entails figuring out what is good, and what is bad, then running after what is good while avoiding what is bad. We all think this behavior is itself good, rather exemplary, but God seems to differ and think it bad. hence god thinking our wisdom is foolish while we would think his wisdom foolish.

But given that they did it, other things such as always wanting more, always wanting money and a whole plethora of other stuff kicked in to overdrive with their new found knowledge and they started figuring out what we like and don't like, then ways to get more of everything and ways to get money and ways to get all the other things they thought they should have. While learning how to avoid everything they disliked.

Not that that any of this is bad, it is all part of our makeup after all... what was bad in God's eyes was that the way we would be driven to go about things it would be like drinking poison and we would die. And we couldn't be told after the fact what we had done because even if we believed what we were told we would just take what we were told as another statement of good and evil and so it would just be the same game only more so. Hence the warning before the fact.

Neither could god just make us move around the way he thought was right, because that would have been like playing with marionettes. And he didn't want to do that for whatever reason. (His whole point of what he thought was right is that we should have freedom of movement for ourselves, rather than being 'played' like marionettes).