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Old 20-07-2020, 07:19 PM
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Physical reactions during healing

are there particular physical reactions during your healing sessions?

For example, I get the following:

face twitches. specially mouth and one chin size
opening throat - and mouth, like I keep pushing breath out.
sometimes my legs squirm

Does anyone have similar reactions or other ones which occurred once or regularly during healing?
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Old 22-07-2020, 01:50 AM
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Sometimes when I ask for healing from Archangel Raphael, I will feel a gentle touch throughout my body.
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Old 22-07-2020, 05:45 AM
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Sometimes when I ask for healing from Archangel Raphael, I will feel a gentle touch throughout my body.

Yah. I feel those sensations too.
but I was wondering about the body's physical states.
my lips twitch proper, or arms move quite wide away from my body.


does your body stay still completely?
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Old 22-07-2020, 07:34 PM
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In my humble opinion, I don't think there's particular ones to give you a sign that you're being healed, if that's what you're inquiring. It's potentially more complicated than that.

Besides, there's different types of healing, no different than going to specialist doctors for example. I like to think and boldy assume, it depends on what needs and/or what is being specifically healed. Not much different than actual concrete common physical healing. Surgery, etc. The targeted areas are felt. And whether or not you're hyper sensitive or spiritually attuned elsewhere as well is another factor.

Personally, I'm very hyper sensitive these days and feel like I'm physically in more than one place at all times. From my experience, upon healing I get either very sleepy and thirsty - or if my aura is weak and it's being healed more I'll get confusion in my third eye, and strong tingling in my crown and lower extremities.

My etheric body is very very sensitive and ticklish, and twitches very easily and I feel it more than my physical one as I get older. And it, is tied to everything I am in this physical in this plane as well. So, you're kinda trusting others as to what you need healing of when it comes to anything that is not self-discovery or self-healing. Asking archangels to specifically heal something for you is one thing, that actually being what needs healing or even can be healed, is another. I know I'm going to get reemed or counter many people's beliefs for this perhaps, but asking for materialistic, superficial, or physical healing from a spiritual being in another plane is rather asking of too much. You should meet any and all healers half-way otherwise you're inviting your spirit to not being healed alongside your ailment. Give room and invite the healing. Trust your guidance and willingness to fight it as well over easy fixes. AVOID self-pity. :P <3

When I received very strong reiki healing from a reiki master, it felt like white light coldness. When I received theta wave healing, it felt very grounding and warm. Upon getting healing from a psychic medium, I just felt empty inside like things got torn away from me that shouldn't have been taken. So in my particular dealings with healing - with the medium whom sent in many things - archangels and having someone else's guides heal me was not helpful. It left me severly depressed and hopeless. Contradicting to what I expected. Upon receiving the strongest "healing" I can ever fathom, it actually caused me and my etheric self massive confusion and landed me in a psych ward for 3 days lol. Sometimes, our journeys (at least for me) are our own. Conquer our own demons or self-heal in order to grasp the larger picture to STAY healed. Independently. :) <3

Again, in my humble opinion, going to a psychic medium who just sends in archangel after archangel is not very different than a doctor who is unable to diagnosis you and just gives you 8 prescriptions and sends you home. Job done. Lol. At the end of the day, no one knows what you're going through spiritually more than YOURSELF. Want to heal your higher-self? Then be sure to learn how to take in divine guidance rather than summoning healings imho. I like to keep things simple - if you're still thinking about and questioning whatever needs healing, you aren't healed. That awareness reminds you that you actually aren't. Move on, dust yourself off and try something else. *shrugs shoulders* lol. Sorry for my rambling. :P

I will boldly say, because my intuition is flaring up about it - Majority of the times, archangel healing is simple "pick me ups". Giving attention to those who seek it and need their spirits lifted. The rest, is actually your own power healing yourself after they simply just lifted you off the ground. 'That' Angelic touch and reminder that light and love exists is all some need in times of turmoil. Physical, mental, or spiritual. Sometimes you may invite loved ones who passed on taking on any name you call them sending you loving vibes as their love is unconditional and something as insignificant as egos and who you think they are matters not. :)

I don't think your body needs to necessarily stay still. That's more of your brain thinking you need to do so being used to the physical aspect of healing. Here's how to counter such beliefs - The earth is CONSTANTLY moving itself. Do you feel it and can you control it? No. Haha. My etheric body feels like things move around IT, it needs not move itself. The universe, energy, forces, and vastness still acts around it regardless. Ironically, my view is our etheric selves are the actual vessels. Our physical selves are the ones actually what we percieve to be astral. Our egos refuse to fathom the opposite because we want to feel self-important out of survival instincts and lack of shadow work to face one's fears of non-existence. Healing "spiritually" and thinking and worrying about 3D conceptual things can be contradicting.

Oh and, goosebumps that feel foreign and very often - are your divine guides showing you your path and saying they're proud of you. <3 :)
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Old 22-07-2020, 11:54 PM
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It is given to us to know that the aspect of "being" (diety expressiveness) that serves to define any aspect of manifested, created, matter is "Consciousness". This is discussed at length elsewhere but if we think of it then realize that everything in existence, from the smallest subatomic partical to our local dieties themselves differ only in the degree to which they are conscious. Think of this carefully. Is there any difference between one human being and the great creative force (center) that cannot be thought of in terms of consciousness?

In the context of healing on the planes familiar to we humans it is appropriate to to consider ability and how it varies with consciousness. The Master Jesus was (and is) able to create and/or manipulate lower plane matter only because He is more conscious than we are. But does this mean we are unconscious? No. But we would be wrong if we though that all human beings were equally conscious. No. We are all a little different. That is why we so often debate reality. It is not a static concept as it would be for insects who are all pretty much the same. The consciousness level of each human being is slightly different and the rate at which we become more conscious over time also varies. These are a few of the wild cards that make human beings so interesting.

Consciousness also means that we sometimes are aware of things that other are not. Perfectly normal. History is filled with such reports. And healing? It is no more than a higher consciousness ministering to a lower. It is no more complicated than that. Typically though, we humans find complexity and from it build "systems" from which we base our actions. This is what it is all about.

Master souls are not the only ones who sense levels of consciousness above their own. We all do it. Can we remember this when we try to analyze phenomena?

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In my humble opinion, I don't think there's particular ones to give you a sign that you're being healed, if that's what you're inquiring. It's potentially more complicated than that.

Besides, there's different types of healing, no different than going to specialist doctors for example. I like to think and boldy assume, it depends on what needs and/or what is being specifically healed. Not much different than actual concrete common physical healing. Surgery, etc. The targeted areas are felt. And whether or not you're hyper sensitive or spiritually attuned elsewhere as well is another factor.

Personally, I'm very hyper sensitive these days and feel like I'm physically in more than one place at all times. From my experience, upon healing I get either very sleepy and thirsty - or if my aura is weak and it's being healed more I'll get confusion in my third eye, and strong tingling in my crown and lower extremities.

My etheric body is very very sensitive and ticklish, and twitches very easily and I feel it more than my physical one as I get older. And it, is tied to everything I am in this physical in this plane as well. So, you're kinda trusting others as to what you need healing of when it comes to anything that is not self-discovery or self-healing. Asking archangels to specifically heal something for you is one thing, that actually being what needs healing or even can be healed, is another. I know I'm going to get reemed or counter many people's beliefs for this perhaps, but asking for materialistic, superficial, or physical healing from a spiritual being in another plane is rather asking of too much. You should meet any and all healers half-way otherwise you're inviting your spirit to not being healed alongside your ailment. Give room and invite the healing. Trust your guidance and willingness to fight it as well over easy fixes. AVOID self-pity. :P <3

When I received very strong reiki healing from a reiki master, it felt like white light coldness. When I received theta wave healing, it felt very grounding and warm. Upon getting healing from a psychic medium, I just felt empty inside like things got torn away from me that shouldn't have been taken. So in my particular dealings with healing - with the medium whom sent in many things - archangels and having someone else's guides heal me was not helpful. It left me severly depressed and hopeless. Contradicting to what I expected. Upon receiving the strongest "healing" I can ever fathom, it actually caused me and my etheric self massive confusion and landed me in a psych ward for 3 days lol. Sometimes, our journeys (at least for me) are our own. Conquer our own demons or self-heal in order to grasp the larger picture to STAY healed. Independently. :) <3

Again, in my humble opinion, going to a psychic medium who just sends in archangel after archangel is not very different than a doctor who is unable to diagnosis you and just gives you 8 prescriptions and sends you home. Job done. Lol. At the end of the day, no one knows what you're going through spiritually more than YOURSELF. Want to heal your higher-self? Then be sure to learn how to take in divine guidance rather than summoning healings imho. I like to keep things simple - if you're still thinking about and questioning whatever needs healing, you aren't healed. That awareness reminds you that you actually aren't. Move on, dust yourself off and try something else. *shrugs shoulders* lol. Sorry for my rambling. :P

I will boldly say, because my intuition is flaring up about it - Majority of the times, archangel healing is simple "pick me ups". Giving attention to those who seek it and need their spirits lifted. The rest, is actually your own power healing yourself after they simply just lifted you off the ground. 'That' Angelic touch and reminder that light and love exists is all some need in times of turmoil. Physical, mental, or spiritual. Sometimes you may invite loved ones who passed on taking on any name you call them sending you loving vibes as their love is unconditional and something as insignificant as egos and who you think they are matters not. :)

I don't think your body needs to necessarily stay still. That's more of your brain thinking you need to do so being used to the physical aspect of healing. Here's how to counter such beliefs - The earth is CONSTANTLY moving itself. Do you feel it and can you control it? No. Haha. My etheric body feels like things move around IT, it needs not move itself. The universe, energy, forces, and vastness still acts around it regardless. Ironically, my view is our etheric selves are the actual vessels. Our physical selves are the ones actually what we percieve to be astral. Our egos refuse to fathom the opposite because we want to feel self-important out of survival instincts and lack of shadow work to face one's fears of non-existence. Healing "spiritually" and thinking and worrying about 3D conceptual things can be contradicting.

Oh and, goosebumps that feel foreign and very often - are your divine guides showing you your path and saying they're proud of you. <3 :)
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Old 23-07-2020, 05:58 PM
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Generally speaking I feel good, my body becomes relaxed.

Healing should feel good. It should feel healing lol
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Old 24-07-2020, 08:48 PM
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My question was more of a diagnostic one.
I can touch and hear my chakras, I can feel congestion or tightness, tingles, heaviness etc. these I am learning to diagnose as I go along, when it comes to dealing with the chakras.

but my body also has 'physical' and not just 'sensational' reactions.
from small twitches, to 'squirming' twitches
to even moving into specific yoga -like poses, which I can hold for quite long during the healing (but not necessarily if I was just doing a yoga practice).
(if you're aware of poses, I also commonly go into happy babe and Childs pose in healing down time-- and that I can understand. lol)

I am practiced in Pranic and Reiki healing.
the form of my personal practice is a combination of what I learned in these two schools, plus additional motions supplied via intuition/ higher guide.
When I heal others, I surrender to the flow of where their own energy body guides me, I have a capacity to 'hear' the chakras and speak to them too at times. (not always, some people are more closed off than others, that also really goes back to the patient)
And even while I surrender, I am still 'in control' in general.

but when I am healing myself, some of this 'in control' is reduced, and the surrender is higher.
and one of the side effects is the physical reactions.
(some I understand maybe, most I still do not)
I assume they are diagnostically relevant.
> related to the 'flow capacity'
> related to specific chakra or even more likely maybe the meridians.
maybe there is more to assume, I only just started investigating.
hence I posted the question. I figure if someone has a similar experience I can consider it too.

thank you

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Old 24-07-2020, 09:05 PM
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Thank you so much for your reply. although my question was misguiding, but I thoroughly appreciated your extension and offered opinion.
(I've rephrased and explained my intention with the question, if you care to shed your experience)

I agree with you with regards calling on other bodies to heal us, angels or other.
I work with my own healing. for many of the reasons you mentioned yourself, among others. I enjoyed your discourse in general... but I leave all of it because...

Two things you shared that sparked my interest highly. and I'll jump straight to.
one is the various healing 'types' that you've had.
I'm studied in two schools now (Reiki & Pranic). not to the final levels, but I'm a good way through and moving forward in levels as and when presented to me.
however, because my own practice is still unique and I don't really (by intuition) full follow all I've learned, I want to also explore other schools and methods.
I want to expand my knowledge and understanding through seeing comparing combining, etc...
so my question is, what are the different energy healings you\ve had or tried. and if you don't mind illuminating me where you fancy.


the second thing that's intrigued me, is that you twice mentioned that 'recently you're getting hyper sensitive' or your "intuition is also flaring up".
the same thing is happening to me. recently.
would you care to share experiences?
you see, I am a learner and a teacher. and I'm looking to connect to individuals who I can at least learn from, specially as I'm flaring up, and it would be nice for my education to catch up some, with my intuition. lol.
I am reading more from my sources on the bookshelf, and once I finish through these I will look around for more.
and while books are great, and getting certifications are good too.
I believe the human personal experience is still one of the best teachers.
and I value to hear knowledge and what you've come to understand.
I hope that is ok.

thank you again.

Fats

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In my humble opinion, I don't think there's particular ones to give you a sign that you're being healed, if that's what you're inquiring. It's potentially more complicated than that.

Besides, there's different types of healing, no different than going to specialist doctors for example. I like to think and boldy assume, it depends on what needs and/or what is being specifically healed. Not much different than actual concrete common physical healing. Surgery, etc. The targeted areas are felt. And whether or not you're hyper sensitive or spiritually attuned elsewhere as well is another factor.

Personally, I'm very hyper sensitive these days and feel like I'm physically in more than one place at all times. From my experience, upon healing I get either very sleepy and thirsty - or if my aura is weak and it's being healed more I'll get confusion in my third eye, and strong tingling in my crown and lower extremities.

My etheric body is very very sensitive and ticklish, and twitches very easily and I feel it more than my physical one as I get older. And it, is tied to everything I am in this physical in this plane as well. So, you're kinda trusting others as to what you need healing of when it comes to anything that is not self-discovery or self-healing. Asking archangels to specifically heal something for you is one thing, that actually being what needs healing or even can be healed, is another. I know I'm going to get reemed or counter many people's beliefs for this perhaps, but asking for materialistic, superficial, or physical healing from a spiritual being in another plane is rather asking of too much. You should meet any and all healers half-way otherwise you're inviting your spirit to not being healed alongside your ailment. Give room and invite the healing. Trust your guidance and willingness to fight it as well over easy fixes. AVOID self-pity. :P <3

When I received very strong reiki healing from a reiki master, it felt like white light coldness. When I received theta wave healing, it felt very grounding and warm. Upon getting healing from a psychic medium, I just felt empty inside like things got torn away from me that shouldn't have been taken. So in my particular dealings with healing - with the medium whom sent in many things - archangels and having someone else's guides heal me was not helpful. It left me severly depressed and hopeless. Contradicting to what I expected. Upon receiving the strongest "healing" I can ever fathom, it actually caused me and my etheric self massive confusion and landed me in a psych ward for 3 days lol. Sometimes, our journeys (at least for me) are our own. Conquer our own demons or self-heal in order to grasp the larger picture to STAY healed. Independently. :) <3

Again, in my humble opinion, going to a psychic medium who just sends in archangel after archangel is not very different than a doctor who is unable to diagnosis you and just gives you 8 prescriptions and sends you home. Job done. Lol. At the end of the day, no one knows what you're going through spiritually more than YOURSELF. Want to heal your higher-self? Then be sure to learn how to take in divine guidance rather than summoning healings imho. I like to keep things simple - if you're still thinking about and questioning whatever needs healing, you aren't healed. That awareness reminds you that you actually aren't. Move on, dust yourself off and try something else. *shrugs shoulders* lol. Sorry for my rambling. :P

I will boldly say, because my intuition is flaring up about it - Majority of the times, archangel healing is simple "pick me ups". Giving attention to those who seek it and need their spirits lifted. The rest, is actually your own power healing yourself after they simply just lifted you off the ground. 'That' Angelic touch and reminder that light and love exists is all some need in times of turmoil. Physical, mental, or spiritual. Sometimes you may invite loved ones who passed on taking on any name you call them sending you loving vibes as their love is unconditional and something as insignificant as egos and who you think they are matters not. :)

I don't think your body needs to necessarily stay still. That's more of your brain thinking you need to do so being used to the physical aspect of healing. Here's how to counter such beliefs - The earth is CONSTANTLY moving itself. Do you feel it and can you control it? No. Haha. My etheric body feels like things move around IT, it needs not move itself. The universe, energy, forces, and vastness still acts around it regardless. Ironically, my view is our etheric selves are the actual vessels. Our physical selves are the ones actually what we percieve to be astral. Our egos refuse to fathom the opposite because we want to feel self-important out of survival instincts and lack of shadow work to face one's fears of non-existence. Healing "spiritually" and thinking and worrying about 3D conceptual things can be contradicting.

Oh and, goosebumps that feel foreign and very often - are your divine guides showing you your path and saying they're proud of you. <3 :)
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Old 24-07-2020, 09:07 PM
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Hi Fatimasque, I don't know if your response was directed at me or others, but I'll answer anyway.

In a sense, the body becoming relaxed is diagnostic, because it shows healing is happening.

If you're experiencing movements it's really more a sign of resistance to the healing happening.

Take a more physical example which I suffer with: Sciatica. I do yoga for this. But when I do certain positions which stretches that particular nerve it causes me leg spasms. I recognise in that moment that the healing is happening, because the muscle is stretching, but there is also resistance in the form of the sciatica itself.

Over time (theoretically, though mine may be a slipped disk and the yoga just manages the pain) that muscle would become more relaxed from periodic stretching as the resistance is, how can I say it? replaced with better function, more efficient.

In that sense I hope you understand the analogy to your healing and reactions.

Personally, going back to the sciatica/yoga analogy, the spasms are relieved by allowing my body to relax even deeper into the pose. Relaxation in that sense is the key and the goal. Reactions are just resistance which need not be overcome, but relaxed into. Thus is it with energy healing.

In time the 'muscles' will default to that relaxed state.
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Old 24-07-2020, 09:46 PM
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thank you so much for your response.
It was general for all, since my question turned out to be misguiding at the beginning. lol.

Very interesting. I do I agree, I believe it is a form of resistance as well. I wasn't going to confirm the thought, and I still like to question before I say I know for sure..

thats why I mentioned flow capacity, I think the energy flow is high or strong, and the body is 'resisting' or 'not strong' or 'shocked'.

and yes, I find that I can sometimes ease into it and I will stretch so that I can receive the Prana in an equanimity.

now, the resistance itself is 'diagnostic'.

clearly I am here of my own accord and doing healing for years. not only that, but my current healing recently grew exponentially. from strength of flow, to consistency, to visions, to sensations, to modes of movement and practice, as I said, my body would move into upright and other twisted poses, and once I settle into the pose/stand, the energy augments and flows through with ease of direction and delivery. And I will stay there long and good and perfectly comfortable, until the cessation of flow, and then my body softly folds or stretches.

so even with all that obvious openness, there is still resistance in parts of my body or my psyche, which are (not always of course) manifesting in things like rapid-lip-twitches (its cute if I was a puppy) haha.

when I was healing my sacral in the past week (which was severely suffering, I exorcised out of it a major trauma issues that night, this was done by holding down the sacral and running a cleanse between solar plexus, navel and sacral - some throat was involved too)
anyway... this was intense and beautiful, but then my legs- thighs specifically, it was like someone injected them with a serum lol, they just squirmed and kicked or something, and kept doing so for a while until they settled on their own
I never stopped the healing I just continued, because its honestly like stopping mid operating table.. no way I'll pull out...

exhale. hahaha.

again, I'm not worried. I think you're right, it is resistance, I just have a scientist in me, who wants to understand.
maybe this means there is a Meridien or area which would bode well to cleanse or prepare before I start a healing so intense. and if so, how would I go about finding it.

if you have any more thoughts, they are welcome.
I do appreciate your response, and this did get me thinking,
I'm kinda brainstorming, even up there as I'm speculating and thinking maybe its this or that.

Thank you LadyMay

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Hi Fatimasque, I don't know if your response was directed at me or others, but I'll answer anyway.

In a sense, the body becoming relaxed is diagnostic, because it shows healing is happening.

If you're experiencing movements it's really more a sign of resistance to the healing happening.

Take a more physical example which I suffer with: Sciatica. I do yoga for this. But when I do certain positions which stretches that particular nerve it causes me leg spasms. I recognise in that moment that the healing is happening, because the muscle is stretching, but there is also resistance in the form of the sciatica itself.

Over time (theoretically, though mine may be a slipped disk and the yoga just manages the pain) that muscle would become more relaxed from periodic stretching as the resistance is, how can I say it? replaced with better function, more efficient.

In that sense I hope you understand the analogy to your healing and reactions.

Personally, going back to the sciatica/yoga analogy, the spasms are relieved by allowing my body to relax even deeper into the pose. Relaxation in that sense is the key and the goal. Reactions are just resistance which need not be overcome, but relaxed into. Thus is it with energy healing.

In time the 'muscles' will default to that relaxed state.
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