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Old 13-10-2019, 03:06 PM
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Of interest to some reading this - this is all that the book
'The Direct Means To Eternal Bliss" is about. Michael Langford...
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Old 13-10-2019, 03:07 PM
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“You want to become totally free.

Totally, absolutely free and liberated. You want to know that you're all-pervading. There is nothing but the Self which is you, nothing else exists. The Self is absolute reality, self-contained, absolute reality. The Self is bliss, nirvana, I-am. This is what you are right now. This is your true nature, right now! This is reality right now!

Do not give your energy to this world. For the whole world is a cosmic joke, re- member. And it will suck your energy out, make you weak, make you start searching for remedies, solutions to your problems. You will go through life after life doing these things. The time is now, there is no other time but now. Now is the time to become totally free and liberated. Awaken, for you were never asleep! Awaken from the mortal dream. Let not another day go by where you react to people, places or things. Quit it! Stop it! Do not react to your own body, your own feelings. Quit it! Stop it! Understand who you really are. Stick with it!

Do not look for a time. Do not consider how long it takes, for most of you know by now there is no time. Time is a relative concept, it has no basis, no foundation. Look at yourself without time. Feel yourself without time. This means there never was a time when you were a human. There never was a time when you were a sinner. There never was a time when you had a past. There never will be a time when there is a future. You are all there is right now! All there ever was, all there will ever be is right where you are right this minute. You are that? It is you!“

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Old 13-10-2019, 03:56 PM
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Do not give your energy to this world. For the whole world is a cosmic joke, re- member. And it will suck your energy out, make you weak, make you start searching for remedies, solutions to your problems. You will go through life after life doing these things.
I can't imagine a darker projection! (https://www.merriam-webster.com/word...darkness-words)

You are the 'author' of your own 'destiny' (a la 'the Law of Attraction'). If that is what you experience your present (like) as being like, what do you think your future 'present' (life) will be like? Here's (from https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/traveltal...velerandfarmer) is some folk wisdom for those who can 'hear' it:
A traveler came upon an old farmer hoeing in his field beside the road. Eager to rest his feet, the wanderer hailed the countryman, who seemed happy enough to straighten his back and talk for a moment.

"What sort of people live in the next town?" asked the stranger.

"What were the people like where you've come from?" replied the farmer, answering the question with another question.

"They were a bad lot. Troublemakers all, and lazy too. The most selfish people in the world, and not a one of them to be trusted. I'm happy to be leaving the scoundrels."

"Is that so?" replied the old farmer. "Well, I'm afraid that you'll find the same sort in the next town.

Disappointed, the traveler trudged on his way, and the farmer returned to his work.

Some time later another stranger, coming from the same direction, hailed the farmer, and they stopped to talk. "What sort of people live in the next town?" he asked.

"What were the people like where you've come from?" replied the farmer once again.

"They were the best people in the world. Hard working, honest, and friendly. I'm sorry to be leaving them."

"Fear not," said the farmer. "You'll find the same sort in the next town."
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Old 13-10-2019, 06:28 PM
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Oh my, that last one was a good reminder, Unseeker!
I know people find that this place a dream, hard. "A dream, huh?'
It's an experience, alright, you never forget once you are shown.
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Old 13-10-2019, 06:47 PM
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We can say that consciousness is the substratum of all existence. What is consciousness? What is the substratum? It is absolute nothing. It is no thing that you can ever figure out in your brain, in your mind. There's no way to figure this out in your human perception. For your thoughts are always thinking of something. Therefore you can say consciousness has to be this or has to be that. How can consciousness be what your thoughts tell you, since your thoughts are part of the relative world, and thoughts have nothing for you except make you live as a human being?

You have to go way beyond thoughts, way beyond reasoning, way beyond anything and everything you have ever understood, to be consciousness, to understand consciousness. In order to do this, everything you believe must be dropped. Everything you've been led to understand must be transcended. Everything that you can think about has to go. Your ideas of right and wrong, good and bad, up and down, frontwards and sideways, all these things have to be totally transcended, totally removed from your thinking patterns.

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Old 13-10-2019, 06:51 PM
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The only way you can ever help other people is by knowing yourself. The only way you can ever be of service to others, is by knowing yourself. The only way you can give anybody anything, is by knowing yourself. For when you know yourself, you know others. You will find the others, are yourself. There is only one Self. Everything is that Self, everything. Every leaf, every plant, every cloud, everything is the one Self. That one Self is you.

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Old 13-10-2019, 08:08 PM
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The only way you can ever help other people is by knowing yourself. The only way you can ever be of service to others, is by knowing yourself. The only way you can give anybody anything, is by knowing yourself. For when you know yourself, you know others. You will find the others, are yourself. There is only one Self. Everything is that Self, everything. Every leaf, every plant, every cloud, everything is the one Self. That one Self is you.
"There are those who don't know, and don't know that they don't know. They are totally innocent, and it is for us to encourage them.

Then there are those who don't know and know that they don't know. They are willing to know....teach them.

Then there are those who don't know, but they think that they know. They are dangerous, avoid them.

Then there are those who know, but then don't know that they know. They are asleep...Wake them.

Then there are those who know....and know that they know...But..do not follow them...Because if they know that they know, they would not have you follow them...But listen what they have to tell you...Because they might say something that reminds you of what you already know".

- Neal Donald Walsh (quoted from https://www.facebook.com/MAMLMR/post...2404187797470/ )
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Old 13-10-2019, 09:40 PM
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You have to go way beyond thoughts, way beyond reasoning, way beyond anything and
everything you have ever understood, to be consciousness, to understand consciousness
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In order to do this, everything you believe must be dropped.

Everything you've been led to understand must be transcended. Everything that you can think about has to go.
Your ideas of right and wrong, good and bad, up and down, frontwards and sideways, all these things have to be totally transcended, totally removed from your thinking patterns.”
Robert Adams
Sounds like your everyday exp in deep meditation!
No thoughts. Yup, it all goes out the window.
He does make it a bit intense sounding, ha-- " go way beyond, transcend, remove,
everything dropped, up and down, way beyond reasoning...everything you've understood
has to go..."

It's not so intense as it may seem, lol...it's just being still...albeit, so still like
most could never imagine...almost breathless, so still.
Ok, so you may have to sit motionless for many hours to reach this place....so?

But, it's not that hard...it's so peaceful and sweet - just let go of thoughts...
just become aware...be simple and still...be Awareness Itself.
Forget earth - forget your name-forget the body, the room you're in,
forget your gender - just be.

This is a super great experience.

Ha, your half way there if you've floated on your back or on a float
in a pool alone, safe, quiet, warm - like a baby in a womb...
earplugs in, all still...not a care.
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Meditate unceasingly,
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Old 14-10-2019, 12:00 AM
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Just be.

This is a super great experience.

Ha, your half way there if you've floated on your back or on a float
in a pool alone, safe, quiet, warm - like a baby in a womb...
earplugs in, all still...not a care.
Logic leads me to believe that 'going back' to the 'womb' of Life so as to feel bliss, love, calm, peace, etc. will not result in one's 'graduating' from the 'school' of incarnational-life if that's all or the 'most' that one does with one's Life. Based on my undestanding I would say that one's soul will just have to incarnate again to continue and (eventually, hopefully) complete its learning/developmental/maturational process in that case. Such self-indulgence is the equivalent of taking a feel-good drug - only OK as an 'aid'. From my treatise:
Souls ‘graduate’ from Earthly-life’s ‘school’ when their reincarnational learning and development ‘curriculum’ has thus been completed. Having realized their Cosmic ‘I’dentity (termed ‘Christhood’ by some and spoken of as [every]one’s ‘Buddha Nature’ by others) to be The Spirit of Life Itself, such souls operationally function as full-fledged colleagues of what Jesus referenced as ‘the Father’ from then on. Those who have grasped the fact that the pronouns I and me as used in Jesus’ statements actually reference The Entity (i.e., the entirety) of Life’s Flow – Why? Because, as elucidated in Chapter 1, he personally completely ‘i’dentified with It! – who now also grok the fact that the above-described reincarnational learning-and‑development-leading-to-graduation process is what ‘leads’ to such collegial*recombination, will have no trouble recognizing that it is said all‑encompassing Flow-phenom, and not himself personally, that Jesus was referencing when he emphatically declared: “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me!” (John 14:6)

Now, everything and so everyone in existence (i.e ‘in’ the realm of Creation) is an expression and so an extension of said Father’s (i.e., The Creator’s) Being. So nothing and no one can ever really be separate from ‘Him’ in the first place. What the idea that one may ‘come unto’ ‘the Father’ (as a nodal soul) stems from is the ‘higher order’ exponential (as in f(x)= x to the n
th power) growth‑capacity referencing matrixial truth that one may, by (way of) participating in said reincarnational learning and development process (eventually) become aware of one’s ‘Oneness’ with ‘the Father’ and so, possibly, electively choose to refine one’s motivation and improve the quality of one’s engagement with Life and others in It with the aim of becoming, and thereby actually (eventually) ‘grow’ into being, a full‑fledged partner (not remain a Mommy's 'womb' 'baby'!) in said “Father’s” Love and Joy ‘business’ venture. It is (only!) by repeatedly incarnating as (student) ‘drivers’ in Love and Joy experience-and-expression-capable (body) ‘vehicles’, learning from their successes as well as their failures and consequently becoming more expansively aware and broadly capable along said ‘way’, that souls may (eventually) reach the point where they meaningfully comprehend, integrally embrace and consciously choose to act in accord with the fact that the gestalts of their and others’ selfhoods are really subsidiary ‘i’dentities spawned and animated by our ‘Father’ for the purpose of effectuating and further exploring (as yet) unrealized Love and Joy experience↔expression possibilities. They thereby enter ‘into’ conscious communion with The Life of said Father and then, assuming they continue to function in such ‘unified’ mode (this always remains a matter of choice), ‘eternally’ live so thereafter.
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'One surrenders to God, and they have no other life.
They realize whatever they do, it is God doing it.'




(10 yrs ago, I didn't realize that!)
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