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Old 01-07-2017, 05:55 AM
SpiritualNovice SpiritualNovice is offline
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You, your spirit, and soul.

Please answer this these questions and give examples. Refer to person A as the person with a soul or spirit and person B as the person without a soul or spirit. What is a spirit and what is a soul? What about a person is the spirit what about a person is the soul? How would a person be if they did not have a spirit how would a person be if they did not have a soul? Please give examples of the normal person and the person without Soul or spirit.
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Old 01-07-2017, 05:28 PM
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There is nothing that does not have spirit and soul--

There are two angles worth approaching; first is the formation of any being, in this we must understand how spirit moves a being, and what is has to do with the soul--

If we imagine statues or idols that convey a certain quality or attribute, we stumble upon a certain light-- That is, if we have a statue of motherhood, there is only so many things that convey motherhood so well; that is a mother nursing her baby would be clear in this quality, where as a statue of a man carrying a spear.. well we can say it represents motherhood, but how clear is the quality of this representation?

Certain qualities come into existence, not so much limited in form; but definite in what form conveys that quality well-- That is, the form alone is not the definition of any quality, but the position of that form in relation to everything else expresses that quality-- This, in a sense can give us a closer glimpse at how spirit works; spirit moves itself into the formations that best as it can expresses itself more clearly-- It is in form, but it is formless; it is formless, but only expresses itself truly in form--

The soul, is the weaving of everything else together in experience-- That is, your perspective, your experience, your vision and senses and all that it contains is your soul-- However, the way it is weaved in relationships that are beyond what is just in your vision, determines the qualities that; you yourself are better expressed in-- That is the things that make up your perspective, have relationships in heaven so to speak, that govern your spirit-- And because it governs your spirit, the more you can express yourself better in this form.. the higher quality experience you will find yourself having-- It is both unique and itself in existence, but it is entirely interconnected and based on everything else in existence simultaneously-- In this sense you are a moving statue, trying to convey this quality of soul that is yourself; but that, you are hampered or limited by the development of yourself and your environment--

A soul is like a seed, it contains infinite potential; but requires the right conditions and attention in order to grow into its greatest expressions--
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Old 01-07-2017, 10:40 PM
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Please answer this these questions and give examples. Refer to person A as the person with a soul or spirit and person B as the person without a soul or spirit. What is a spirit and what is a soul? What about a person is the spirit what about a person is the soul? How would a person be if they did not have a spirit how would a person be if they did not have a soul? Please give examples of the normal person and the person without Soul or spirit.

This sounds like an exam question from my schooldays.

The simple answer is that there is no person B. Everyone has both spirit and soul (how could they live otherwise?) but not everyone has contact with spirit and/or soul.

So what is a human being? For convenience we can divide a human into three aspects:
1) Spirit or Being, esoterically labelled the Monad.
2) Soul or consciousness, the individualised expression of Being.
3) Personality, the outer expression of soul consciousness in form.

Someone who lacks any kind of contact with spirit or soul is fully identified with personality and all its limitations.

Someone who is more advanced has some soul contact, some soul awareness, and they are not wholly identified with personality.

The even more advanced individual is fully identified with soul and has flashes of identification with spirit or Being. For these people, personality is simply a tool for the expression of soul or consciousness.

Those who are most advanced identify wholly with spirit or Being, and consciousness is their tool for outer expression. Personality with all its limitations has ceased to exist.

Does this answer your question?

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Old 02-07-2017, 11:27 AM
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Please answer this these questions and give examples. Refer to person A as the person with a soul or spirit and person B as the person without a soul or spirit. What is a spirit and what is a soul? What about a person is the spirit what about a person is the soul? How would a person be if they did not have a spirit how would a person be if they did not have a soul? Please give examples of the normal person and the person without Soul or spirit.

Impossible to answer. These are things you must find out for yourself.

You are a spirit and you are the product of your soul. The spirits on the supernatural planes are entities in our being for which we provide spaces. They live in the margin of our daily existences reaching through to serve various purposes.

Contemplate the idea of "as above so below," or "as without so within". Know that your perceptions create the shape of what you call reality. It doesn't matter what reality actually is but it does matter what you make of it.

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Old 03-07-2017, 09:51 PM
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In my view we are not a soul within a body but a body within the soul of the Universe. So everyone will always be of this essence.

Consequently the question then becomes how to relate to this. Which is the eternal game of hide and seek. Where all the answers are there for us to discover, as nothing is hidden from us. So in effect it becomes about 'waking' up to who you are, and for you to see that you are the Eternal Universe.
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