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Old 24-12-2016, 11:08 AM
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If a sinner realizes his sin... then what is the necessity of the existence of hell and ‘liquid fire’?
"Dear... the children... it's Christmas my Love." ~Bob Cratchit, toasting Scrooge and imploring his wife to just Let It Go.
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Old 24-12-2016, 05:44 PM
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Though universes may be infinite, they ultimately don't last. There is no need for 'God' to do anything about the negativity nor to do anything about humanity. It will all go away on its own.

Allow humans to be human, is there any greater respect or love than that?


The child gets spoiled if the mischief is tolerated. We are seeing this in the world. The teacher will never tolerate the spoiling of the child and therefore, He will not tolerate the mischief. God uses the fruits of your sins as punishments and the only aim is your welfare. This is the reason why Datta is always called as Guru Datta. Therefore, guru or teacher is greatest. The results of bad deeds are used as punishments to transform and uplift the student. Therefore, the result of a bad deed is very very useful for the transformation of the soul.
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Old 24-12-2016, 05:51 PM
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hey dude you for got to answer my post
I am here to get attention to just like others
is your universe already crumbling ?
mine is now darn !!!!

or am I spared destruction from your evil god ?
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Old 25-12-2016, 12:12 AM
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The universe had a beginning and it will have an end. Anything which has a beginning will naturally have an end without something or someone trying to end it. Thermodynamics; energy, equilibrium, and entropy, brings about natural transformations. Nothing is static, nothing in this creation lasts forever.
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Old 25-12-2016, 01:27 AM
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It is a cycle, like a pendulum swinging to and fro...from creation to destruction and back to creation.

When the universal karma gets too great, there will be one straw that will break the camel's back, unwind the spring and cause the energies to go rushing back in the opposite direction...it's more like a 'Jack In The Box'...

We are close to that scenario, but still a fair way to go yet and I know it won't happen in my generation, nor even in the next, but any time after that.

God doesn't get angry, but His creation gets unsustainable for the creatures who inhabit it...and He causes a disaster to happen that wipes the slate clean again, begins to Terraform the land...ready for more residential, commercial and industrial property and people to move in...

It's just like me playing Sim City 4...

This is how God plays with us....but He has done the Simoleon cheat...lol

in my mind God doesn't have to cause much of anything unless he is in the mood... the system as designed forms a set of natural checks and balances such that any attempt to head for an extreme will eventually result in a reaction in another direction... you are seeing that in britain and america these days, the politicians kept going in a certain direction for a long enough time that it eventually became unsustainable and headed another direction entirely.
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Old 25-12-2016, 05:46 AM
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The child gets spoiled if the mischief is tolerated. We are seeing this in the world. The teacher will never tolerate the spoiling of the child and therefore, He will not tolerate the mischief. God uses the fruits of your sins as punishments and the only aim is your welfare. This is the reason why Datta is always called as Guru Datta. Therefore, guru or teacher is greatest. The results of bad deeds are used as punishments to transform and uplift the student. Therefore, the result of a bad deed is very very useful for the transformation of the soul.
Well clearly this system is not working all that well otherwise there wouldn't be posting of 'proceeds towards negative day by day'.

Ok, so in some views, this universe (or [human] species) is not what 'God' would want it to be. That still does not call for any action by 'God'. Make another universe (or many) where the beings don't go 'astray' without continual feedback. This universe, no matter how 'undesirable', will go away on its own without any further intervention.

I note how 'teacher' has been subtly substituted for 'God'. I can see how a teacher might view that the student might need some active guidance (similar to suggested above). Is there some basis to suggest 'God' is by nature a teacher?
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