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Old 10-02-2020, 08:27 PM
The Eternal Soul The Eternal Soul is offline
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Which still has nothing to do with jesus's mythical second coming.

You cannot make up some new meaning to one tiny part of the myth and ignore all the raising the dead from the foundations of when the earth was created, to create his army, the destruction of all non-believing life on earth, ruling over the Christians with a "rod of iron" and the help of his zombie army, etc. That is all part of the myth. Or do you have some word magic to explain all that away also?
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Old 11-02-2020, 10:27 PM
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Which still has nothing to do with jesus's mythical second coming.

You cannot make up some new meaning to one tiny part of the myth and ignore all the raising the dead from the foundations of when the earth was created, to create his army, the destruction of all non-believing life on earth, ruling over the Christians with a "rod of iron" and the help of his zombie army, etc. That is all part of the myth. Or do you have some word magic to explain all that away also?

Eternal, you're taking way too much literally, its often the way with critics of the myth, that they take it as literally as do fundamentalists. you're just saying that its invalid to hold another view beyond the literalist i think there's a thousand ways to see things and theres no default base position really, there just isn't
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Old 11-02-2020, 11:34 PM
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Eternal, you're taking way too much literally, its often the way with critics of the myth, that they take it as literally as do fundamentalists. you're just saying that its invalid to hold another view beyond the literalist i think there's a thousand ways to see things and theres no default base position really, there just isn't

Funny that!

I state:

"You cannot make up some new meaning to one tiny part of the myth and ignore all the raising the dead from the foundations of when the earth was created, to create his army, the destruction of all non-believing life on earth, ruling over the Christians with a "rod of iron" and the help of his zombie army, etc. That is all part of the myth. Or do you have some word magic to explain all that away also?"

And you reply with a tiny part of it and make a straw man out of it. The very thing the other poster was being called out on.
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Old 11-02-2020, 11:50 PM
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Well now we're having fun, it's no use calling something i wrote a straw man without explaining why it is, or what that non-sensical term even means. how come you get to define reality and no-one else have a go of it?
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:38 AM
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Well now we're having fun, it's no use calling something i wrote a straw man without explaining why it is, or what that non-sensical term even means. how come you get to define reality and no-one else have a go of it?

Seriously?

All you basically did was say that my references to the biblical mythology cannot be taken as they are stated, but offered absolutely nothing to support your claim. You could have at least made up some clever misinterpretations for everything to try deceiving me. Instead of a lame na-ah, it isn't to be taken literal. Geez...
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Old 15-02-2020, 05:17 PM
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Eternal, i feel your taking a narrow definition of what the mythology is then saying that's all there is, and there's no alternative views, but there must be alternative views with so many sects and branches of Christianity, so i don't need to really need to offer support just point to all the different branches and so on that emphasise and see things in their own way!
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Old 16-02-2020, 12:01 AM
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Eternal, i feel your taking a narrow definition of what the mythology is then saying that's all there is, and there's no alternative views, but there must be alternative views with so many sects and branches of Christianity, so i don't need to really need to offer support just point to all the different branches and so on that emphasise and see things in their own way!

In all the forums I've ever been on the principal idea is to discuss or debate often opposing viewpoints. And so I see lots of people doing that here. So what is your problem with my doing it also?
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Old 16-02-2020, 03:25 AM
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In all the forums I've ever been on the principal idea is to discuss or debate often opposing viewpoints. And so I see lots of people doing that here. So what is your problem with my doing it also?

it's nothing personal to you! only the stuff about taking a literal view of scripture. no-one agrees about scripture, what it means or how to read it. There is a literalist narrative in scripture but it's not obvious how literal to take it and people do to varying degrees or see things in their own way.
this is interesting. it's an observational point, but the interpretation is up to the individual really and sure many people claim to speak for the whole thing, thats to be expected. i think its only the point of view you have a problem with the particular interpretation?
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Old 17-02-2020, 04:18 PM
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Which still has nothing to do with jesus's mythical second coming.

You cannot make up some new meaning to one tiny part of the myth and ignore all the raising the dead from the foundations of when the earth was created, to create his army, the destruction of all non-believing life on earth, ruling over the Christians with a "rod of iron" and the help of his zombie army, etc. That is all part of the myth. Or do you have some word magic to explain all that away also?

Science supports the Eastern perspective of the material world being, "Illusory".
Interesting though, that while we are witnessing the growing devastation of the "Coronavirus", and climate change is seriously and decidedly afoot, you want to cite "myth", regarding Biblical prophecy.
We are observing it being fulfilled.

You seem to hold the perception that you are insulated from all of it. You are not.
But, perhaps we will talk more on this later on.
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Old 17-02-2020, 06:43 PM
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Science supports the Eastern perspective of the material world being, "Illusory".
Interesting though, that while we are witnessing the growing devastation of the "Coronavirus", and climate change is seriously and decidedly afoot, you want to cite "myth", regarding Biblical prophecy.
We are observing it being fulfilled.

You seem to hold the perception that you are insulated from all of it. You are not.
But, perhaps we will talk more on this later on.



The Earth is in constant flux and climate change has been happening since the dawn of time, Viruses/Plagues/Influenzas etc : also.

It's nothing more then ' Cause and effect ' rather than fulfilled prophecies...
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