I found the truth

[neil]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

I understand what you mean, these signs and symbols have power because I give them power, right? This can't be true... if someones rapes a child, this horrible evil act is evil because I see it evil or... is evil because is actually evil..? These satanists ( among them there are pedophiles too ) use these things only to mock God, these signs are not evil because they are evil, they are evil because they are used in an evil way.

I used to be like many of you, thinking that we are all one, that evil and good are just things created by our minds and so on.. Just in a matter of few days everything changed, it's like I am able to see and to hear for the first time in my life.. We are thought to be always positive, why in the world would you want something like that? Don't you want to see the true face of evil, to see the negative part of this world, which is bigger than we can even imagine...? We hear every single day that love is the answer, love, love, love... believe me, there will be a time when it will be ok for an adult to be with a child, after all is nothing wrong, love is the answer, right...

Simpleman.
A lot of what you say is true..and a lot of what you say will never be understood by persons that just have not knowingly experienced dark spiritual inuence and attack.
The way it is applied..the way it feels..how it can completely take over your mind, in such away, that to the unaware person, they will become these horrendous, deplorable, soul destroying influencing attacks on the mind of another being...and these attacks can be kept in motion completely for as long as the dark ones desire.

I can not, fully convey the pervasiveness of it...and i can not expect other persons to grasp it either.

I have a spiritualy minded friend, who is a beautifully minded young adult female, who everyone that she comes into contact with, describes her as the epitome of heavenly ness...and yet i am aware that she has a number of very dark beings connected to herself, and she is totaly OBLIVIOUS to the fact.

And while i was answering a question of hers, regarding spitritual things, the answer called for information of dark beings, and as i progressed with the answer, i was witnessing a change in her total persona. She became very verbally rude, with a very aggressive body language, her aura reaked of evil, and it happened very quickly and as soon as it happened, it also disipated...and she had no recognition of it all.

Regards Neil.

[Busby]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

I was always confused about the truth, so many beliefs, so many people claiming that their truth is the true one.In the last few days, everything changed, I was born and raised as a christian but my family never really cared about such things, but I could not ignore my inner "voice", I knew that there's a greater force that rules the whole creation.I remember how I started to read the Bible, about Jesus, on my own, and I was really young at that time, then, time passed, things happened and I kinda lost my interest, but that inner "voice" was still there, that inner feeling of knowing the truth.I got so confused so I tried to seek answers in other places, so, I've reached out for buddhism, but this could not satisfy that inner voice, then, the new age stuff, this seemed interesting and logic but it failed miserably because it was and it is a big lie.I've read stuff about people talking with God, the so called books "A conversation with God", at first it was mind opening, then, I saw the lies, then, I saw even more lies.Now, in the last few days, I found the truth, I've seen the evil in this world, the one that rules the entire Earth, now, I see everything, this world is ruled by an evil much greater than you could ever imagine.I found out that most of the world known leaders, movie stars, singers and politicians are all satanists.They all use the same satanic signs again and again ( the pentagram, the all seeing eye made with their hands at their faces, the pyramid with the all seeing eye, the 666 made with their hands, the white and black checkerboard floor, the bloodbath, their evil agenda promoting homosexuality, pansexuality, pedophilia, pornography, immorality and so on ), man, and all of these signs ( and many other ) are found in the satanic "bible", how's that? So, if they are satanists, then, Satan must also be real, this implies that the God of the bible is also real... so, guys, this is the final truth, the one I've been searching for all my life...it was always in front of my eyes.

Is kinda strange, months ago I started to see the number 9 everywhere and these last few days of knowing the truth I saw the number 9 dozens of times.

The world I live in is for some reason completely different to the one you live in - I wonder why that is?

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by soulforce

And this is the reason why I left Christianity. I wanted something deeper more meaningful and real than everything you think is great. I spent a lot of years on CARM having the exact same discussions with similar types of people with similar results, and after awhile it becomes superficial dogma that's lacking in empathy.

I can appreciate that this structure works for you and perhaps it has given you a certainty that you didn't find before you became a believer. But for me it's not enough. I need more and more found me. I've been in love ever since and I can't fully describe the peace and love I feel inside. I'm like you that I want to share it, but I want others to find their love without trying to cram a bunch of dogma down their throats.

For me the devil doesn't exist. It has no place in my consciousness and it never will. There is only room for God's love and compassion. My friends are like my spiritual family, here and over there. You see I'm a former Christian missionary so I'm very familiar with the religion and it's beliefs. Hence I also know it's ideological short comings too.

Nevertheless I believe religion has it's place in our world. Any philosophy that teaches us how to love and respect one another is good, but there is so much ugliness and division that I think much of what was good as been sullied by politics and selfishness.

I keep thinking about Jesus, the revolutionary he was, stood up to such people (the pharisees) and showed them the meaning of love through empathetic acts of compassion. The pharisees cared more for legalism than spiritual compassion that they missed the point. I think you can appreciate that as well.

Thank you for your testimony.

For the exact same reason I tried to seek the truth in other places, but I found nothing, in fact, I found lies upon lies.I believe that the true church of Christ is in spirit, you don't need to be of any denomination to be of God.Religion is man made and has the power to turn people away, why do you think Jesus had so much trouble with the pharisees? They represent the religious rulers of our society, blind guides, that's how Jesus called them.They know the truth but they don't practice it.They know the way to God but they make it hard for others to reach it.

You talk about Jesus.. then you know that He believed that the evil one is real? Jesus said that the evil one is the ruler of this world.You can not listen just to a part of Jesus's teachings and deny the other part.That's what the new age people do, they pick from the Bible only those things that sound good to their ears ( I used to be one ).

When I created this topic I had no intention to create such a debate, I just wanted to share with the world that I found the truth and how I found it.You can believe me or not, it's your own decision...

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by neil

Simpleman.
A lot of what you say is true..and a lot of what you say will never be understood by persons that just have not knowingly experienced dark spiritual inuence and attack.
The way it is applied..the way it feels..how it can completely take over your mind, in such away, that to the unaware person, they will become these horrendous, deplorable, soul destroying influencing attacks on the mind of another being...and these attacks can be kept in motion completely for as long as the dark ones desire.

I can not, fully convey the pervasiveness of it...and i can not expect other persons to grasp it either.

I have a spiritualy minded friend, who is a beautifully minded young adult female, who everyone that she comes into contact with, describes her as the epitome of heavenly ness...and yet i am aware that she has a number of very dark beings connected to herself, and she is totaly OBLIVIOUS to the fact.

And while i was answering a question of hers, regarding spitritual things, the answer called for information of dark beings, and as i progressed with the answer, i was witnessing a change in her total persona. She became very verbally rude, with a very aggressive body language, her aura reaked of evil, and it happened very quickly and as soon as it happened, it also disipated...and she had no recognition of it all.

Regards Neil.

I think nowadays to tell people that there's evil in this world is actually a bad thing, they only want to see love and positivity...

[soulforce]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

For the exact same reason I tried to seek the truth in other places, but I found nothing, in fact, I found lies upon lies.I believe that the true church of Christ is in spirit, you don't need to be of any denomination to be of God.Religion is man made and has the power to turn people away, why do you think Jesus had so much trouble with the pharisees? They represent the religious rulers of our society, blind guides, that's how Jesus called them.They know the truth but they don't practice it.They know the way to God but they make it hard for others to reach it.

You talk about Jesus.. then you know that He believed that the evil one is real? Jesus said that the evil one is the ruler of this world.You can not listen just to a part of Jesus's teachings and deny the other part.That's what the new age people do, they pick from the Bible only those things that sound good to their ears ( I used to be one ).

When I created this topic I had no intention to create such a debate, I just wanted to share with the world that I found the truth and how I found it.You can believe me or not, it's your own decision...

I can respect that, but I'm wondering why you jump to conclusions about my beliefs calling them "lies" when what you call truth came from a 2000 year old book full of inconsistencies.

Further more the people who think all the answers are only found in one book have very little desire to exercise the freedom in consultation of the Holy Spirit whom Jesus promised to us in the book of John. This leads me back to my question in a previous post. Do we only speak English in heaven? The answer you gave me was on point. I loved it. This is how I know my beliefs are true as well as yours.

anyways God bless.

P.S. I wrote a lot more but I realized it was too big for anyone to want to read it.

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by soulforce

I can respect that, but I'm wondering why you jump to conclusions about my beliefs calling them "lies" when what you call truth came from a 2000 year old book full of inconsistencies.

Further more the people who think all the answers are only found in one book have very little desire to exercise the freedom in consultation of the Holy Spirit whom Jesus promised to us in the book of John. This leads me back to my question in a previous post. Do we only speak English in heaven? The answer you gave me was on point. I loved it. This is how I know my beliefs are true as well as yours.

anyways God bless.

P.S. I wrote a lot more but I realized it was too big for anyone to want to read it.

How could anything else be true? Until now, nobody was able to tell me why these singers and actors ( there are many other too ) use those satanic symbols... Let me tell you how I became aware of the truth, if you want to know, of course.The boyfriend of my sister gave me a song, he told me that this song is pure bliss, the name of the song was "magnum opus".I had no idea what it means so I did a search on google, then, I found myself on a satanist website.Believe me, I had no idea that there are people who call themselves "satanists", anyway, here I am, reading things about how Satan is the true and only God and so on.Then, I found out that they have their bible, the so called "satanic bible".Then, I did a search on youtube about this thing, there I discovered so many other things.. I saw a video about Celine Dion and her new line of clothes for children ( for babies ), well, you would say what? Now comes the strange part, these clothes are filled with satanic symbols ( you can do a search on your own, don't take my words for granted ).Then, I saw a video where she talks about these clothes and she says that she had no desire to force these clothes into society ( it's funny, you if you do a search, many of these singers and actors use her clothes for their own children ), then, one of her designers says that they want to bring a new world order as concept, what??? You don't want to force people buy these clothes ( they are super expensive anyway ) but you talk about bringing a new world order concerning children clothes.These clothes are the so called "no-gender" clothes, this is the change they want to make.She made this decision to create these clothes when she found out that her children are unsure about their gender.Man, this was creepy, don't take my words for granted, do a search on your own and you will see that I don't lie, those clothes are really strange ( they are filled with pentagrams, the all seeing eye, skulls, they mainly use the black and white color, this is a way to promote duality, children clothes, "haha" ).Now, from this point on, I did more search and I discovered everything I needed to know to fully see the truth.I found out that Katy Perry is a devil worshiper, do you know that she is on trial with some nuns ( yes, nuns ) for the house where Charles Manson once lived? Charles Manson was one of the most notorious killers in USA, listen what she said: "Well I don’t know, that’s why I want that property because I want to go down and sit down and drink green tea, and just go to the meditation garden and just meditate.".If you search more you will find that many of her concerts are filled with satanic symbols, in special the all seeing eye, "she is madly in love with eyes".Well, it's not just Katy Perry, they all are, singers, actors, politics man and on and on.

If you want, I can show you everything I found, I have no hidden intentions...

This is the truth guys, believe it or not, I don't force anyone...

P.S I am glad that we can have this conversation, please, write anything you feel, I read everything.

[Molearner]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

When you believe in the God of the Bible, the true God, you invite Him in your life, He comes into your being, He lives inside you, so God is going with you in this battle between good and evil, you are not a pawn, you are not alone, God is with you.The true freedom is not when you do whatever you want to do, true freedom is when you do always the right thing.

SimpleMan,

I can agree with your assessment of true freedom. That statement can only be witnessed when we become one with God....ie. for most this means admission to the eternal life. In that realm bad choices no longer exist.

Now in regards to earlier statements of yours stating that evil rules the world I cannot agree. It is true that the world is full of evil.....that is readily apparent. After all, Jesus said...."My kingdom is not of this world".....and the Lord's prayer prays....."Thy wii be done, on earth, as it is in heaven"....clearly demonstrating that God's will is not done on earth. But saying that does not mean that there is no presence of God on earth. Clearly there is. This world is held in balance by polarity. For religious understanding this implies the balance between good and evil. Here is the relevant part in regards to that: Balance is due not to a quantitative equality but rather a qualitative equality. By this I would suggest that a few good men can offset many evil men. It is not a one-to-one correlation. I would suggest you read Genesis 18:20-33. This is the bargain that Abraham made with God. To avoid the total destruction of Sodom, Abraham bargained with God, first getting God to spare destruction if there were 50 righteous people in the city.....then Abraham continued to bargain with God finally agreeing to spare the city of total destruction if 10 righteous men could be found. So the righteousness of 10 men saved all. This is still an operative principle.......the prayers and righteousness of a few can offset the evil of many and thereby preserve the world.

[candyfloss28]

I'm a lesbian, have known since I was 10, now nearly 40. I'm not evil, it is who I am. Their is nothing wrong with being gay or lesbian, people do not chose who they are attracted to.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Genesis 18:20-33. This is the bargain that Abraham made with God.
To avoid the total destruction of Sodom, Abraham bargained with God, first getting God to spare
destruction if there were 50 righteous people in the city.....then Abraham continued to bargain
with God finally agreeing to spare the city of total destruction if 10 righteous men could be found.
So the righteousness of 10 men saved all. This is still an operative principle.......the prayers and
righteousness of a few can offset the evil of many and thereby preserve the world.

I love this story.
(Cuz we can have these conversations with God, too!)


Hi candyfloss, I agree with you.

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by candyfloss28

I'm a lesbian, have known since I was 10, now nearly 40. I'm not evil, it is who I am. Their is nothing wrong with being gay or lesbian, people do not chose who they are attracted to.

The Bible clearly states that it is wrong for a man to be with a man or for a woman to be with a woman, though, I don't judge you.

Have you wondered about why the so called "gay pride" is so sexually oriented? People go on streets having almost no clothes on them, kissing each other, but, yes, who am I to judge.. This thing I could never understand.