Christianity and Gnosticism

[sky]

Originally Posted by django

"Christians have a lot to learn", and I would agree the way to learn is indeed to strip away all the conditioned baggage. I think Christianity falls short in not teaching this, though I gather the Christian mystics did come to this knowledge time and again. "First self-knowledge then God-knowledge".

What the Christian mystics have through their stripping away and afterwards is faith in God and Jesus as the messiah/Christ, when everything is stripped away Jesus is still needed, and God is still needed, I think the gnostic has dispelled the need for Jesus or God or Christian emptying of self because to them they already are like Jesus or already are God.

Oh, and I did think you were gnostic because you seem to defend gnosticism and have always professed an appreciation and gnostic understanding of the Gospel of Thomas.

' you seem to defend gnosticism '

I also defend animals, yet I am human.



I base my beliefs on rational enquiry rather than external authority.
I accept my beliefs can change in the light of new understanding and insight, and they do.
I form my principles from conscience, thinking and life experiences as best I can.
I hold reverence for the earth and the whole natural system of which we are part, we are the Universe.


I love reading the Gospel of Thomas and many other Teachings from the great Masters.


' Conditioned baggage '


And where does it come from?

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

Of course you are. All your posts indicate this.

I know what I am Honza,
I am that I am

[Honza]

Originally Posted by sky123

I know what I am Honza,
I am that I am

That makes you Yahweh....

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

That makes you Yahweh....

Am I that am I?

[davidmartin]

if you are you are beyond imagination

[sky]

Originally Posted by davidmartin

if you are you are beyond imagination

Beyond the senses lies the answers

[white pegasus]

what is the chapter and verse in the book of acts that states early christians were all jewish? what version of the bible are you referencing sky?

[sky]

Originally Posted by white pegasus

what is the chapter and verse in the book of acts that states early christians were all jewish? what version of the bible are you referencing sky?

If you Google the ' History of Christianity ' you will find your answers WP, including bible references.


It's obvious as Jesus was a Jew and Christians are followers of Jesus.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Honza

That makes you Yahweh....

ah......

actually Elohim.


I am mentioned in Exodus chapter 3 is God (Elohim)

also note

Psalms 82:6 "You are gods" (Elohim)


Who is Elohim?
Read Genesis 1:1 - 2:3
God is mentioned. In Hebrew the word used for God is Elohim.

In Genesis 2:4 Yahweh is first introduced.
Check it out in Hebrew.

[white pegasus]

sky-im asking you to cite your source of information. There were also gentiles(non-jews) in the early begininnings of the Christian church. please cite chapter verse and which version of Bible.