Lets examine the wisdom of calling oneself God.

[Honza]

Originally Posted by sky123

If you don't see everything as a argument or a divide then you will see " Individuality in oneness "

I think it is wise to see a division or a dichotomy where there is one. The beliefs I am not God and I am God tend to contradict each other. There is no harm seeing a division there.

[Honza]

Originally Posted by Baile

And to clarify: it's not Christ, it's Jesus the human being who united with Christ Consciousness. And it's organized religion that stepped the mark, and that turned the story of Jesus' union with Christ into a "one and only son of god" thing.

That may just be worldly cynicism talking. Why shouldn't Jesus be God? Why shouldn't God exist - one who is far greater than Consciousness?

The world makes us numb.

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by Honza

We have two sides of the argument going on here. Those who feel it is truth and wise to call oneself God and those who feel it is false and foolish to call oneself God. What a great divide.

On the subject of reincarnation, there is also a great divide --- those who see life as one life and those who see separation and distinct entities. (The great Sufi mystic, Hazrat Inayat Khan, brought that to my attention in a book on "Mastery" that I am now reading.) The belief system and the understanding of "God" are predictors of people's positions on the various topics being discussed.

[davidmartin]

Originally Posted by Honza

That may just be worldly cynicism talking. Why shouldn't Jesus be God? Why shouldn't God exist - one who is far greater than Consciousness?

The world makes us numb.

Why not take that other part of Jesus's teaching to be true as well
That there is deception and lies trying to confuse us, because if the truth was so simple why haven't we all embraced it in the aeons before recorded history?
if you try and make each idea as worthy as any other, and there is a difference, then the worth of everything is reduced to the idea that is the most worthless

Originally Posted by theophilus

Unless you are God you are guilty of blasphemy if you call yourself God. The only human who had the right to call himself God was Jesus Christ. He was equal to God the Father and was incarnated in human flesh and therefore was both human and divine. He could say he was God and also say that he was a human and both statements would be the truth.

Supernatural thinking is dysfunctional thinking.

Scriptures belie what you put.

Jesus says he has many brethren and if he can call himself God, so can we his brethren.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Regards
DL

[Rah nam]

I am an equal part of All That Is, and if someone calls All That is, God, than I am God also.


Reading through some of the posts, we seam to come closer to the understanding, everything is connected, everything is One, and there is only One. And there is nothing outside of the One.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Rah nam

....And there is nothing outside of the One.

And when you experience that in one of those 'blow your socks off'
moments...it stays with you forever!

Originally Posted by Rah nam

I am an equal part of All That Is, and if someone calls All That is, God, than I am God also.


Reading through some of the posts, we seam to come closer to the understanding, everything is connected, everything is One, and there is only One. And there is nothing outside of the One.

Yes and no.

I like to say that we are all in this together, alone.

You cannot say you are equal to all within the one. We have equality under the law type of thinking, --- but we do not have equality of outcome.

That is demonstrable, unfortunately.

Regards
DL

[theophilus]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop

Jesus says he has many brethren and if he can call himself God, so can we his brethren.

Jesus has existed as God for all eternity.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1

He took on a human nature be being born as a human, but he never ceased to be God. Anyone who repents of his sins and places his faith in Jesus becomes a child of God and in that sense can be considered a brother of the man Jesus but we can never share his divine nature and so we are sinning if we say we are God. Jesus is God; we are not.

[davidmartin]

Originally Posted by theophilus

Jesus has existed as God for all eternity.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1

He took on a human nature be being born as a human, but he never ceased to be God. Anyone who repents of his sins and places his faith in Jesus becomes a child of God and in that sense can be considered a brother of the man Jesus but we can never share his divine nature and so we are sinning if we say we are God. Jesus is God; we are not.

i see where your coming from but we can share his divine nature through being in a relationship. we are in some sense divine beings just from life itself having it's essence in God. But so are animals and plants. I think recognising that is a good thing because then you respect life more