Spiritual Forums

Home


Donate!


Articles


CHAT!


Shop


 
Welcome to Spiritual Forums!.

We created this community for people from all backgrounds to discuss Spiritual, Paranormal, Metaphysical, Philosophical, Supernatural, and Esoteric subjects. From Astral Projection to Zen, all topics are welcome. We hope you enjoy your visits.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to most discussions and articles. By joining our free community you will be able to post messages, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos, and gain access to our Chat Rooms, Registration is fast, simple, and free, so please, join our community today! !

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, check our FAQs before contacting support. Please read our forum rules, since they are enforced by our volunteer staff. This will help you avoid any infractions and issues.

Go Back   Spiritual Forums > Most Anything > Philosophy & Theory

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 19-06-2024, 08:21 AM
Goldcup7 Goldcup7 is offline
Knower
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 160
  Goldcup7's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by weareunity
...PS. I have no idea how the rabbit got on to the top of this post. Logic tells me I have bungled and prodded something somewhere in error. 😊
Maybe the rabbit represents the rabbit hole down which we have gone with this thread.

I can't mention rabbit hole without highlighting the ubiquitous hollow hole in the forms of this world. They express the perfect infinite emptiness of our being. Slight Zen-like interlude there.

Regarding different routes, imo all routes come from the One and lead to the One, whilst remaining as the One. There are not many rivers flowing to the sea, there is just water. (Sticking with the Zen theme .)
__________________
It is what it is.

Last edited by Miss Hepburn : 19-06-2024 at 12:53 PM. Reason: Shortened quote as Admin has asked
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 19-06-2024, 09:40 AM
JustBe JustBe is offline
Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 3,442
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
feelings are OR maybe fortunately, living like everything is not separate would maybe be more boring than I used to suppose....
Yes life doesn’t require us to speak like a oneness zombie.. hehe

In fact there is much freedom to be more engaged with life as you are, as others are, without worrying too much about where you fit.

I’ve been around guru types who have lost touch with reality to some degree. I prefer to integrate myself and just be me, feelings and all. I’m blessed from doing consistent work on myself, that my feelings are generally centred in clarity. In that balanced state, my movements generally are calm and non reactive. I’m generally observing others with their cranky pants on.
__________________
Free from all thought of “I” and “mine”, that man finds utter peace. ~Bhagavad Gita
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 19-06-2024, 12:57 PM
Miss Hepburn Miss Hepburn is offline
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southwest, USA
Posts: 25,496
  Miss Hepburn's Avatar
When quoting others please only quote 2-3 sentences...ref to the post # if you need to.
__________________

.
*I'll text in Navy Blue when I'm speaking as a Mod. :)


Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
.


Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 20-06-2024, 12:38 AM
FallingLeaves FallingLeaves is offline
Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 6,519
 
Quote:
I’ve been around guru types who have lost touch with reality to some degree.

as much as i didn't want to believe it, i think it is kinda 'normal' for people to lose touch with reality while thinking they haven't... even those of us who have a closer relationship with the process of our lives and even see through what some of the others seem to be doing aren't immune as far as i can tell...

gurus aren't beyond it either. Not a single one of them really knows anything 'real'. That was pretty much my first lesson, in spirituality...

I should say I'm not immune either, i just happen to know of this as a very real tendency...

sigh...
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 20-06-2024, 02:29 AM
JustBe JustBe is offline
Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 3,442
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

I should say I'm not immune either, i just happen to know of this as a very real tendency...

sigh...

I’ve done it myself in process, it took a more logically brained person to bring me back into my body more directly and move past that point in process. It only took him to say- “you’ve lost touch with reality” to realise. I think it scared me enough to fall back in. Of course it wasn’t easy to face the reality of myself and life, but I’m grateful for that shift. .I can witness more aware and realised now.

I don’t think I would recognise it otherwise. I think it’s harder for guru types who spend endless hours in meditation or altered realities. A meditation teacher who I once had was great for our lead into meditation but for our everyday existence he didn’t have much clue. So discussions weren’t always easy for him where you do require a grounded ‘in touch’ with reality approach.

As humans we are creatures, not immune from inner and outer balance, so even spirituality or too far out of the real world, in its own time and process eventually understands, the lived experience can’t be avoided. The totality of you is very important.
__________________
Free from all thought of “I” and “mine”, that man finds utter peace. ~Bhagavad Gita
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 26-06-2024, 12:38 AM
FallingLeaves FallingLeaves is offline
Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 6,519
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBe
I’ve done it myself in process, it took a more logically brained person to bring me back into my body more directly and move past that point in process. It only took him to say- “you’ve lost touch with reality” to realise. I think it scared me enough to fall back in. Of course it wasn’t easy to face the reality of myself and life, but I’m grateful for that shift. .I can witness more aware and realised now.

yeah, i've been learning, slowly.... im in sort of a life where little goes right and if I don't toe the line a lot can go wrong... so I'm always being brought back to face myself after all, inasmuch as pisces me would really like to just shuttle off into the clouds and be happy go lucky....

I wonder sometimes though, if it really *has* to be this way. If maybe I'm not just making busywork for myself the way people do with things like the LOA... and wondering if there maybe isn't something better somewhere than all this learning im doing perpetually. But the reality behind that is I'm also very tired of trying to get to a better place sigh.... so, one foot in front of the other and we'll see where I am tomorrow....
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 05-07-2024, 09:07 AM
ajay00 ajay00 is offline
Master
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,329
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by weareunity
Hello all.
Is it possible to collectively get from conflict to cooperation?

Excellent question.

This is the major challenge facing humanity at the moment.

Conflict can lead to regression and destruction. Cooperation can lead to progress and prosperity.

Sri Sri Ravi Shankar had stated that 90 % of problems arise due to lack of proper communication skills. This also includes proper behavior and etiquette and interaction that develops relationships .

Standing in the shoes of the other also enables one to understand differing perspectives and respond appropriately.
__________________
When even one virtue becomes our nature, the mind becomes clean and tranquil. Then there is no need to practice meditation; we will automatically be meditating always. ~ Swami Satchidananda

Wholesome virtuous behavior progressively leads to the foremost.~ Buddha AN 10.1

If you do right, irrespective of what the other does, it will slow down the (turbulent) mind. ~ Rajini Menon
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05-07-2024, 09:15 PM
weareunity weareunity is offline
Ascender
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 786
 
Hello ajay00--and all.

Thanks for sharing your views.

Feeling connected to others/all else is a feeling which logically reduces inclination for conflict. Imo.

Paradoxically, whilst we measure various aspects of ourselves by relative measure compared to others we are automatically opening the door to the generating of disconnection because relative measure is dependent upon measuring differences. ( note. the concept of diversity however cannot be measured in such a way).

If our self identity becomes reliant upon relative measure that reliance can become more like an addiction---an addiction which at very least does not sit comfortably with fundamental connection.

We might choose to wonder if that mind mechanism which we call the "ego" is a mechanism seeking to satisfy the addiction--for the possible reason that the mind in question has either not had the opportunity to experience fundamental connection, or seems unable to experience that fundamental connection.

Figuring out why either might be the case involves understanding human behaviour, and trying to adjust the mechanism might well include following some established methodologies which help break the addiction--- just so long as the "ego" does not seek to be seen as the best practioner of any such methodology!!

Alternatively, imo. A change of perception regarding the very nature of existence, the logical imo. interconnection, interdependence, inescapable, inevitable connection of all which exists as part of the whole process which we call existence can help establish the feeling of being connected.

Cheers. X.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) Spiritual Forums