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[neil]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

NEIL, GLAD TO SEE YOU ARE BACK!
i am looking forward to seeing more of your posts.

Hi there BJ I am here reading two or more times a day. However I generally refrain from posting..smiles.

[r6r6]

Miss Hepburn--And I would say when I see a Divine Light that is brighter than 10,000 suns...

Uhh, you would be blind if you truly experienced that Miss H.

(For me anyway), it took steadfast dedication and determination and constant resolve, steady effort, consistent focus for years and years everyday...change of diet and friends...sitting 3-6 hours straight in silence,

and then much grace followed.

On the other hand we have all these people seeing the source and divine all the time and that is every where. So I get at least two differrent versions;


1} appears easy to see, hear experience cause its all around us,


2} your above, where you have to struggle many days a week sitting for hours and hours to catch a glimpse of the source or creator or God or divine or ether etc.


It sounds very superstitious hokey-pokey to me. I was addicted to the hokey-pokey for a while but then I turned myself around.

[neil]

Originally Posted by r6r6r

That makes two of us, tho there are key differrences in what I'm saying and your saying and what I base my sayings on is differrent from what your basing your sayings on.


Much of I say is based on observed evidence for that makes a intrument go PING! when it measures fermions, bosons etc.


When your what ever it is you think you experience causes differrent science experiements go PING! I would find what you say more credulous.


Untill then your just another of many who equate with so many of those who claim UFOs and UFO abduction. Grain of salt.

Again it really does not matter to myself what you are basing your beliefs on, to me none of your test mean anything to me & I ignore all of your symbols of wavy & straight lines etc.
When you yourself start to have my experiences, I can guarantee you that you will give up studying fermions & bosons etc, & you will never draw wavy & or straight lines & symbols ever again...SMILES.

When you will realize that the flesh & brain are not the thinking, reasoning, intelligent, sentient part of the person standing on this planet, you will give up studying anything do do with fermions & bosons etc.

Just so you know I have no interests in UFO's nor alien abductions, because to me they are only of the flesh & from another physical planet from within the one & only spiritual universe.
I am only interested in the spiritual matters, of this one & only spiritual universe that all things reside within.

And so as i have mentioned many times before, & of which you & many others do EASILY dismiss.
If you ever find yourself standing on this planet, outside of your flesh body, I suggest that you try very very hard to quickly remember what i have continuously spoken about on this forum. Because even after people have been liberated from the flesh, people need to have their wits about them, because the spiritual life outside of the flesh, right here on this planet, is not what people think it is.
There is much unloving "DISCRETE" & devious trickery, THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO AVOID.

"JUST SAYING" AND GOOD LUCK IF YOU IGNORE MY WORDS.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by r6r6r

Uhh, you would be blind if you truly experienced that Miss H.

RE seeing Inner Divine Light - No one sees that with with these
2 eyes open ...you missed the words inside, within, eyes closed.
You can say your mind's eye, you can say the 3rd eye, your inner eye.
Are your eyes open seeing an elaborate movie that you dream at night?

[r6r6]

neil--"JUST SAYING" AND GOOD LUCK IF YOU IGNORE MY WORDS.

Good luck to you also. Ive stated my thoughts to you about your thoughts.


Good bye.

[r6r6]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

RE seeing Inner Divine Light - No one sees that with with these2 eyes open ...you missed the words inside, within, eyes closed.
You can say your mind's eye, you can say the 3rd eye, your inner eye.
Are your eyes open seeing an elaborate movie that you dream at night?

By Miss H. Best wishes to you and yours.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by r6r6r

1} appears easy to see, hear experience cause its all around us,
2} your above, where you have to struggle many days a week sitting for hours and hours
to catch a glimpse of the source or creator or God or divine or ether etc.
It sounds very superstitious hokey-pokey to me. I was addicted to the hokey-pokey for a while but then I turned myself around.

No 'struggle'...just putting in the time in silence and stillness...and more than just ''catching a glimpse''.

Many, including myself, have moments of Cosmic Consciousness---we 'see'
into things,
the Holy Spirit reveals insights extraordinaire...
this can last a minute to hours in this altered state of awareness...so we see and feel
the Divine within all that is around us; walls, trees, the air, a rock become alive with consciousness...the One Consciousness that
is within everything that exists.
Sound impossible-it isn't.
It is hokey pokey only to the one that hasn't experienced it and remains doubtful, thinking it is an unrealistic idea.

Meditation helps to fine tune our awareness...like gently tuning in a radio station to perfection.
If you are equating sitting in stillness, peacefully to struggle---it usually is because of the
activity of thoughts that haven't calmed down yet*...many never really exp the next stage ..when the mind does become still.
It takes practice and the sweetness is well worth the time.

* Buddhists call it monkey mind, ha.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

No 'struggle'...just putting in the time in silence and stillness...and more than just ''catching a glimpse''.

Many, including myself, have moments of Cosmic Consciousness---we 'see'
into things,
the Holy Spirit reveals insights extraordinaire...
this can last a minute to hours in this altered state of awareness...so we see and feel
the Divine within all that is around us; walls, trees, the air, a rock become alive with consciousness...the One Consciousness that
is within everything that exists.
Sound impossible-it isn't.
It is hokey pokey only to the one that hasn't experienced it and remains doubtful, thinking it is an unrealistic idea.

Meditation helps to fine tune our awareness...like gently tuning in a radio station to perfection.
If you are equating sitting in stillness, peacefully to struggle---it usually is because of the
activity of thoughts that haven't calmed down yet*...many never really exp the next stage ..when the mind does become still.
It takes practice and the sweetness is well worth the time.

* Buddhists call it monkey mind, ha.

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