Changing the Past?

RadicalRave · #1 04-10-2015, 09:52 AM

So there are theories out there of multiple timelines, quantum jumping, changing the past and sending signals/information into the past.

What are your all's views on changing time, not in the sense how most people perceive it to be linear, but how can one change a timeline where basically they fix events in their lives that come and make better changes in their lives?

notapsychic · #2 05-10-2015, 06:51 AM

If you are into time travel, read this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle
That guy Novikov says that according to general relativity, in case you can travel time, the probability that an event creates a time paradox is zero.
Which means that if you want to travel time and kill Hitler, you will probably not be able to kill him due to certain laws of physics will not allow you to do so.
You won't be able to have a lot of free will when traveling time and do what you want, but you will be able to be a good tourist.
You can be witness of Abraham Lincoln assassination in case you are into gore, or you can watch how the pyramids were built, but you can't prevent that things from happening. It would be more like a 100% real discovery channel tour through time.

I have other thoughts though. It could be possible that time travel won't be possible on your own timeline, but perhaps you could travel to another timeline/dimension/universe that is some decades behind yours. If this were true, you could kill Adolf Hitler, and change that timeline, but not yours.
Perhaps you could wait a couple of years, and return to see how the world turned out to be, and perhaps if you like that timeline, live there in a nuke free world.

knightofalbion · #3 05-10-2015, 09:21 AM

You can't change the past, but you can remember it - and most importantly learn from it.

Tristran · #4 05-10-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RadicalRave

but how can one change a time-line where basically they fix events in their lives that come and make better changes in their lives?

Linear time cannot be altered. So time-travel is only possible in terms of viewing what happened millenniums ago.

MKUltra did this where they sent children to the time dimension and those children actually viewed what really happened during the days of Noah's Ark.

Reincarnation is how spirits make better changes with the same stream of events / challenges that will confront them no matter what time-zone they are currently in.

RadicalRave · #5 05-10-2015, 09:38 PM

Yeah, those don't answer my questions.

I'm looking for something that changes my time line.

Sure, linear time isn't legit nor does it really exist, but I'd really like to be able to come and change many outcomes of events in my life that have come to pass, so that they would have never come to pass at all, but instead, better ones would come.

notapsychic · #6 06-10-2015, 05:17 AM

If you could change your life for better through time travel, then you wouldn't need to time travel at all if your life was perfect, and thus a paradox arises.

On the other hand, if inter-dimensional travel could be possible, I cynically would span different universes to find one where things aren't so bad on my life, and then I would swap dimensions with my own self. You can fake it 'till you make it.

notapsychic · #7 06-10-2015, 05:22 AM

I would also carry a gun in case another me from another dimension wants to swap my place.

Elric · #8 06-10-2015, 05:51 AM

Hey Notapsychic, many years ago, I witnessed a past life in a Spirit Circle.
In that life I was an Inquisitor & was about to torture a suspected witch who was spread on a rack.
There is no doubt in my mind what-so-ever that I affected that past life from this one, as illogical as it may sound. My then persona heard my 'screams' of protest as 'his' own thoughts. It changed that lifes direction & 'he' hung up his torturing tools for good.

Several years later, a girl burst into tears when me met & sobbed in terror. She said she'd seen my eyes since a child, in the flames of candles or campfires & said she knew that I would find her in this life.
She recalled the past-life memory just as I'd seen it. She was the girl on the rack.

Belle · #9 06-10-2015, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by knightofalbion

You can't change the past, but you can remember it - and most importantly learn from it.

Neatly and succinctly put.

My history teacher used to lament that the one thing history teaches us is that we never learn.

notapsychic · #10 06-10-2015, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucifer777

Hey Notapsychic, many years ago, I witnessed a past life in a Spirit Circle.
In that life I was an Inquisitor & was about to torture a suspected witch who was spread on a rack.
There is no doubt in my mind what-so-ever that I affected that past life from this one, as illogical as it may sound. My then persona heard my 'screams' of protest as 'his' own thoughts. It changed that lifes direction & 'he' hung up his torturing tools for good.

Several years later, a girl burst into tears when me met & sobbed in terror. She said she'd seen my eyes since a child, in the flames of candles or campfires & said she knew that I would find her in this life.
She recalled the past-life memory just as I'd seen it. She was the girl on the rack.

Interesting.
There are restrictions on matter traveling faster than the speed of lights, but there are none of those in the spiritual world.