Heart

[john1974]

running thanks for starting this thread it appeals to me now with regards to were im at in my journey. recently my energy has been working at the heart area after being at the solar plexus for quite sometime. lately ive been having intense pressure in the heart area and sometimes difficulty breathing.

after not speaking to my son for 5 years lately we have been reunited and the love i have for him is somewhat
different from the past love i had for him, it feels much more deeper and i love everything about him including his imperfections, not that im judging him.
im also noticing theres still a lot of negativity showing up ( negative ego)
and the endless stories. i would like to see more replies with regarding the heart and what to expect. i kind of imagine that this is were the soul comes to the for front and you tend to walk more in spirit rather than negative ego? im hoping theres members that contributes a lot to this thread.

john

[Baile]

Originally Posted by running

There is not so much on the opening of the heart, rising of the kundalini and how it directly effects the nervous system.

I got 11 million kundalini hits on Google so it can't be that obscure. :) Some powerful inner-development observations in that post, the most important being:

This results in a joy in the body and a silence in the mind.
The joy is not from the emotional body.
The joy and silence live along side of preferences and emotions.
Over time the joy and peace become established.
Once they have become established, emotions and circumstances no longer can make it come and go.
It becomes endless.

I will add that kundalini is really just a loosely-relative Eastern-specific term that's been co-opted by the new-age movement in recent years. The kundalini experience that the new-age movement speaks of, is really just part of the on-going process of awakening to self. The "opening of the heart" has to do with self-development realizations born of an elevated moral understanding regarding the individual as it relates to Spirit and the rest of humanity. This elevated understanding manifests in the individual as a new, peaceful and joyful relationship with life. It's alchemical wisdom, it's the first stage of initiation, it's been called many different things over the centuries.

[running]

Originally Posted by Baile

I got 11 million kundalini hits on Google so it can't be that obscure. :) Some powerful inner-development observations in that post, the most important being:

This results in a joy in the body and a silence in the mind.
The joy is not from the emotional body.
The joy and silence live along side of preferences and emotions.
Over time the joy and peace become established.
Once they have become established, emotions and circumstances no longer can make it come and go.
It becomes endless.

I will add that kundalini is really just a loosely-relative Eastern-specific term that's been co-opted by the new-age movement in recent years. The kundalini experience that the new-age movement speaks of, is really just part of the on-going process of awakening to self. The "opening of the heart" has to do with self-development realizations born of an elevated moral understanding regarding the individual as it relates to Spirit and the rest of humanity. This elevated understanding manifests in the individual as a new, peaceful and joyful relationship with life. It's alchemical wisdom, it's the first stage of initiation, it's been called many different things over the centuries.

Thanks for sharing Baile. I wouldnt personally get into the moral debate. But thats just me. For me its beyond the right and wrong of the mind.

I would just say its the ultimate peace pipe. Because when one is in joy and peace people are naturally easier to get along with.

Its my opinion its obscure compared to spiritual idealism and most other things thought of as apiritual. Especially from teachers in the field comparatively speaking. By at least 90% imo. I woule say 97%.

But thank god for the internet. Thanks for bringing up the hits. It took me years to fine out. Every teacher i saw had a sales pitch. But no explanation to why i felt so much joy going on througu the nervous system. Took me about three years of experiencing it before learning of kundalini. But i didnt go on the internet much if at all back then.

[running]

Originally Posted by john1974

running thanks for starting this thread it appeals to me now with regards to were im at in my journey. recently my energy has been working at the heart area after being at the solar plexus for quite sometime. lately ive been having intense pressure in the heart area and sometimes difficulty breathing.

after not speaking to my son for 5 years lately we have been reunited and the love i have for him is somewhat
different from the past love i had for him, it feels much more deeper and i love everything about him including his imperfections, not that im judging him.
im also noticing theres still a lot of negativity showing up ( negative ego)
and the endless stories. i would like to see more replies with regarding the heart and what to expect. i kind of imagine that this is were the soul comes to the for front and you tend to walk more in spirit rather than negative ego? im hoping theres members that contributes a lot to this thread.

john

The only part of the ego i experienced dissolving is the part of me that didnt feel worthy of the bliss and peace. I had to become to accept of whomever i am and how ever i am. What i mean is when the bliss wont leave reguardless of what goes on in the mind. It has no choice but to die.

But thats just my personal experience. Everybody has there own i imagine.

[running]

Originally Posted by sparkles

hey running, thanks for sharing, it resonates with me as I am working on the heart as well. It might be the most important part of our body. A catalyst of wonderful things, if you will. They say that the 'new era' we just entered is the era of the heart, and that this is why there is lots of heart healing going on right now.

Could be! My girlfriend whom works in metaphysics hears about going from the stomach to the heart from various people i believe.

All i know is its a good thing when the heart awakens!

[Baile]

Originally Posted by running

Thanks for sharing. I wouldnt personally get into the moral debate. But thats just me. For me its beyond the right and wrong of the mind.

Moral debate? I'm saying it's well-documented in many spiritual streams of thought that the aspirant achieves peace and joy in life, though the inner self-development process. And that includes recognizing for example the sanctity of all life along with one's inner-connectedness to other human beings. So yes, there is a moral-development element to heightened awareness. Yes, it is also about elevated wisdom regarding right action and right deed; all that is part of the human soul-development path.

Or are you telling me you personally would have zero problems intentionally running over some innocent pedestrian with your 18-wheeler, and then continuing on your merry way without giving it another thought? If you're someone who doesn't see wrong and right in that, then I apologize for lumping you in with the majority, lol.

[sparkles]

Originally Posted by john1974

i would like to see more replies with regarding the heart and what to expect. i kind of imagine that this is were the soul comes to the for front and you tend to walk more in spirit rather than negative ego?

hey john, my experience is that when you are able to live from the heart, judgement ceases to exist. Towards yourself, others, any situation. Nothing is good or bad, everything just 'is' and is interconnected. I think this is very similar to what you see in pretty much all world religions: live in love and you will find peace and unity, within yourself and with others. Maybe along those lines you could say that ego is where judgement resides?

[sparkles]

Originally Posted by running

My girlfriend whom works in metaphysics hears about going from the stomach to the heart from various people i believe.

I'd love to hear more about that!

[running]

Originally Posted by Baile

Moral debate? I'm saying it's well-documented in many spiritual streams of thought that the aspirant achieves peace and joy in life, though the inner self-development process. And that includes recognizing for example the sanctity of all life along with one's inner-connectedness to other human beings. So yes, there is a moral-development element to heightened awareness. Yes, it is also about elevated wisdom regarding right action and right deed; all that is part of the human soul-development path.

Or are you telling me you personally would have zero problems intentionally running over some innocent pedestrian with your 18-wheeler, and then continuing on your merry way without giving it another thought? If you're someone who doesn't see wrong and right in that, then I apologize for lumping you in with the majority, lol.

I said i wouldnt turn it into a moral debate. Maybe i should of added morals are the opinion of the person who comes up with them imo. More killing has happend over that debate than anything else. And thats a fact.

I wasnt also referring to practices of sorts of not being helpful to people. Again i could of elaborated. And i tryed except you responded faster than i could add to my post as the thoughts came up.

And yes if i ran somebody over the bliss would not go away. But it doesn't mean i wouldnt care. Nor does it mean i would ever intentionally.

If you want peace imo its about the energy making that happen not from ideas of the mind.

This thread is an outline of what goes on to the individual in the reguards i have mentioned.

Not a practice. There are tons of stuff out there on practices.

[running]

Who i am as a person is no different than who i was before things opened up for me. What has changed is the joy and peace which has made life very easy.

For others it could be different. I dont know?