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Old 15-06-2018, 05:24 PM
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I 'see' that Eelco has deleted what he said in the above post. I am quoting (below) what he originally said in it which came through in the email which notified me of its posting, however, because it is pertinent (IMO) to what is being discussed and I wish to respond to respond to it relevantly, which opportunity I am thankful for.


Apparently so.

From the book, Seth Speaks (channeled by Jane Roberts):

"In any of these worlds, the Christ drama could never appear as it appeared within your own. Now the same thing applies to each of your great religions, though as I have said in the past, the Buddhists come closer, generally speaking, to a description of the nature of reality. They have not understood the eternal validity of the soul, however, in terms of its exquisite invulnerability, nor been able to hold a feeling for its unique character. But Buddha, like Christ, interpreted what he almost knew in terms of your own reality. Not only of your own physical reality, but your own probable physical reality."

That (channeled) Entity, who/which used the name 'Seth', may not have known what he was talking about either, I suppose.




' But Buddha, like Christ, interpreted what he almost knew '


Who was it that knew that Buddha and Christ almost knew?
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Old 15-06-2018, 05:27 PM
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Lol.

I actually learned a lot from Jane Roberts or Seth's nature of reality.

The quote above is from Seth speaks and is 1 of a few out of context mentions of Buddhism and the Buddha in the whole thing.

Wasn't Adams son called Cain?

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Old 15-06-2018, 05:39 PM
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Buddha did teach what was in the Bhagavad-Gita. Buddha was raised a Hindu. Did he focus or teach everything in the Gita? No. Buddha was like Martin Luther, the Catholic priest who broke away from some of their teachings and focused on particular things that he thought were most important. Like Thomas Merton, a Trappist Monk who focused on Buddhist meditation and Zen. Or like Bede Griffth, or Alan Watts.... or like all of us!

As we live moment to moment, day after day, what we focus on is our religion. What we become and project and experience as a result of our focus. That is what Buddha taught and that is the whole point and message of the Gita.

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"When you move amidst the world of sense, free from attachment and aversion alike, there comes the peace in which all sorrows end, and you live in the wisdom of the Self." Bhagavad-Gita

That is pretty much exactly what Buddha taught.
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Old 15-06-2018, 05:58 PM
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the Buddhists come closer, generally speaking, to a description of the nature of reality. They have not understood the eternal validity of the soul,

Buddha never said there was no soul. But then he didn't say there was one either. People sometimes miss the point of Buddha. He was trying to get people to DO IT ya know. Stop talking and thinking about it, DO IT, LIVE IT, BE IT! Buddha had zero interest in starting a religion. The world already had enough religions. That's why Buddha did not write anything down. Buddha was trying to teach and show the people alive around him how to discover this thing he found. How to live life in a new way.

So Buddha was anti belief. Any belief. That was Buddha's whole point. Take your attention off of the conceptual. Look at the actual. I don't know if people understand that word conceptual, what it refers to exactly.

The non-conceptual world is the one that exists apart from thought and thinking. It can be experienced but that requires taking the attention off of thought and thinking and that is where the attention normally resides.

So Buddha found this way of being and was obsessed with communicating to others how to achieve it for themselves. Talking about god, souls, past lives or anything meant the attention was on thinking.... so Buddha would not go there and was asking others to not go there as well.
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Old 15-06-2018, 06:00 PM
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Buddha did teach what was in the Bhagavad-Gita. Buddha was raised a Hindu. Did he focus or teach everything in the Gita? No. Buddha was like Martin Luther, the Catholic priest who broke away from some of their teachings and focused on particular things that he thought were most important. Like Thomas Merton, a Trappist Monk who focused on Buddhist meditation and Zen. Or like Bede Griffth, or Alan Watts.... or like all of us!

As we live moment to moment, day after day, what we focus on is our religion. What we become and project and experience as a result of our focus. That is what Buddha taught and that is the whole point and message of the Gita.



That is pretty much exactly what Buddha taught. He just used different words to avoid copyright violations and to avoid being sued.




Buddha wasn't a Hindu Rain, Hinduism as we know it never existed when Buddha walked the earth. Brahmanism was the main religion.
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Old 15-06-2018, 06:07 PM
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Buddha never said there was no soul. But then he didn't say there was one either. People sometimes miss the point of Buddha. He was trying to get people to DO IT ya know. Stop talking and thinking about it, DO IT, LIVE IT, BE IT! Buddha had zero interest in starting a religion. The world already had enough religions. That's why Buddha did not write anything down. Buddha was trying to teach and show the people alive around him how to discover this thing he found. How to live life in a new way.

So Buddha was anti belief. Any belief. That was Buddha's whole point. Take your attention off of the conceptual. Look at the actual. I don't know if people understand that word conceptual, what it refers to exactly.

The non-conceptual world is the one that exists apart from thought and thinking. It can be experienced but that requires taking the attention off of thought and thinking and that is where the attention normally resides.

So Buddha found this way of being and was obsessed with communicating to others how to achieve it for themselves. Talking about god, souls, past lives or anything meant the attention was on thinking.... so Buddha would not go there and was asking others to not go there as well.


Rain, Buddha did speak of Past Lives frequently.
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Old 15-06-2018, 06:43 PM
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The Gita explains Dharma and the eternality of Krishna.
The Buddha didn't refute that. He did say that even the gods were bound by the wheel of samsara and that he found a path leading out of the bounds that keeps one trapped within that wheel.

Whether that is a good thing or not remains to be seen. But the difference is there.

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Old 15-06-2018, 07:05 PM
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Buddha wasn't a Hindu Rain,

That's obvious the way you are defining the word isn't it?

I said Buddha was raised a Hindu, which is an ethnic term. He grew up within Vedic traditions that is a fact. But yea modern westerners only use the word to mean a religion. Hindu in the sense of vedic culture, knowing Vedic teachings. Buddha criticized Vedic customs and rituals extensively and in detail. Call people who follow Vedic teachings anything you want.
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Old 15-06-2018, 07:07 PM
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Yea westerners?
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Old 15-06-2018, 07:12 PM
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Yea westerners?

Well UK as well lol. Sky saw the word Hindu and thought, oh modern religion is being referred to. He is saying Buddha was a member of a modern religion! lol um no.

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The historical meaning of the term Hindu has evolved with time. Starting with the Persian and Greek references to the land of the Indus in the 1st millennium BCE through the texts of the medieval era,[5] the term Hindu implied a geographic, ethnic or cultural identifier for people living in the Indian subcontinent around or beyond the Sindhu (Indus) river.[6] By the 16th century, the term began to refer to residents of the subcontinent who were not Turkic or Muslims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu
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