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Old 24-08-2018, 09:39 AM
Busby Busby is offline
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Yes, BUT ... only for NOW.

Not all of us are 'evolving' (spiritually) speaking.

Some 'souls' (spirits) are moving 'forward', some are moving 'backward' (i.e. 'devolving'). Some are headed for (spiritual) 'extinction'. No 'secret' here.

Mind is but the 'eye' of the 'soul', so the 'universes' (plural) that soul's 'see' i.e. ex-peer-ience (along evolutionary and/or devolutionary teir journey) differ. No 'secret' here either.

My first thought is that I try never to speak of 'souls' as it is completely unclear of what we are talking about, as is the word 'god'. Both words, along with others mean different things to different people. 'Spirit' is another. Fishing in these waters is confusing to the utmost. I cannot be convinced that we have a 'soul' but am convinced that our individuality is reflected in our subjective consciousness. These individualities whether existing in Mexico or Syria are the results of life's bufferings and have nothing to do with morals or ethics. 'All the world's a stage' said Shakespeare understanding life's tribulations.

The idea that we should all be moving 'forward' as if there were some sort of target doesn't work for me. I don't believe that there is a God who wants us to be 'good', thus setting up a goodies and baddies, cowboys and Indians, God versus the Devil scenery. For me there is no heaven and no hell, all of this stems from religions, man-made to cover those fears which abound in our individual minds as our exposure to the outside world becomes clear.

IMO the reason for living is so that the Mind, the one of which we are all a part is able to experience the ever present totality of knowledge, a totality which will never be reached as atoms push and shove themselves into new forms and creations. What is also clear to me is that all conscious beings, in their grades, strive for knowledge (as opposed to goodness) and each is appreciated by the whole. There are no stragglers and no-one denied access, everyone of us (whatever) has a role to play.
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Old 24-08-2018, 11:43 AM
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My first thought is that I try never to speak of 'souls' as it is completely unclear of what we are talking about, as is the word 'god'. Both words, along with others mean different things to different people. 'Spirit' is another. Fishing in these waters is confusing to the utmost. I cannot be convinced that we have a 'soul' but am convinced that our individuality is reflected in our subjective consciousness. These individualities whether existing in Mexico or Syria are the results of life's bufferings and have nothing to do with morals or ethics. 'All the world's a stage' said Shakespeare understanding life's tribulations.

The idea that we should all be moving 'forward' as if there were some sort of target doesn't work for me. I don't believe that there is a God who wants us to be 'good', thus setting up a goodies and baddies, cowboys and Indians, God versus the Devil scenery. For me there is no heaven and no hell, all of this stems from religions, man-made to cover those fears which abound in our individual minds as our exposure to the outside world becomes clear.

IMO the reason for living is so that the Mind, the one of which we are all a part is able to experience the ever present totality of knowledge, a totality which will never be reached as atoms push and shove themselves into new forms and creations. What is also clear to me is that all conscious beings, in their grades, strive for knowledge (as opposed to goodness) and each is appreciated by the whole. There are no stragglers and no-one denied access, everyone of us (whatever) has a role to play.
Different strikes for different folks.

Whatever turns the 'Spirit' of Life (which is Love and Joy IMO), on is 'good' because it 'works' for 'good', i.e. for Life (in my mind's knowledge-view). Whatever turns it off (i.e. away from Love and Joy) is 'bad' for like reason.

I have shared my shtick in this regard, as have you yours.

Salut, Bro!
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:02 PM
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True clarity is when we have cleared our consciousness, and that clearing process goes deep within our own sub-conscious nature to things which we may have long buried there. ... I am having a wonderful time communing and interacting with my own consciousness, and grateful for the awareness to recognize what I have put in my consciousness, some of those things going back decades. ... I do love the silence that I experience when I quiet my mind and I have come to realize that the closer I get to the source of any experience the stronger that experience becomes. Silence has a source which we humans may refer to as a “void.” People often associate the word “silence” with the word “peace. “ Well, when we quiet our mind there is a “peace which surpasses understanding.”
Speaking of silence:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mindful...gods-presence/
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