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13-05-2017, 04:32 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by sky123
Yes, and the mind plays tricks to confuse you, well mine does  |
So if Oneness as mind is playing tricks on itself as 'you' and Oneness as 'you' ends up feeling confused by those tricks at least there is no disconnection.
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13-05-2017, 04:54 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by Iamit
So if Oneness as mind is playing tricks on itself as 'you' and Oneness as 'you' ends up feeling confused by those tricks at least there is no disconnection.
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There is no disconnection, but sometimes it feels like the switch has been turned off  |
13-05-2017, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan_SF
Well, the title should be "The disconnection or Separation from the Onenes may cause suffering"
May cause, because in this oneness is your happines and joy and health .
While in duality you can have both: suffering then healing - Sadness then Joy etc etc
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is that the goal of oneness? To be happy all the time? I'm not sure I would even want that... |
14-05-2017, 12:20 AM
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Master
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Originally Posted by sky123
There is no disconnection, but sometimes it feels like the switch has been turned off |
Oneness does that to itself sometimes. Maybe it just likes playing with switches because it can.
By those we are supposed to respect as enlightened beings knowing about this stuff, We are told that connection is a state of bliss supported by a very blissful, peaceful looking image. and that just being in thier presense can enlighten, something we can catch like measles.
What they dont tell us, accept for a select few, is that peace comes by including all as Oneness manifest, including feeling switched off, not blissful, or peaceful.
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14-05-2017, 12:31 AM
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Master
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Originally Posted by Dan_SF
Well, the title should be "The disconnection or Separation from the Onenes may cause suffering"
May cause, because in this oneness is your happines and joy and health .
While in duality you can have both: suffering then healing - Sadness then Joy etc etc
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Yes the feeling of disconnection can be experienced as suffering. The peace comes when all is included as Oneness manifest, including sadness and suffering otherwise a feeling that there is some degree of separation remains. |
20-05-2017, 03:14 PM
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While it is true that there is no way to be disconnected, calling it a connection is still putting yourself apart and identification with something else. Being a part is to put yourself apart. You are That (no connection needed)...as there is only the Self (not two...nor one, nor nothing, nor any combination, nor all of these, nor none of these.)...but realizing the Self also means seeing through the illusions of the mind.
One such illusion of the mind is suffering. We create our own suffering, but we unknowingly do it to ourselves. Pain exists because of the nerves of the body, but suffering exists because of the mind. As such, it can end...and does when you see through the fictitious "me" that is being identified with and realize who/what you really are.
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20-05-2017, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by eputkonen
One such illusion of the mind is suffering. We create our own suffering, but we unknowingly do it to ourselves. Pain exists because of the nerves of the body, but suffering exists because of the mind. As such, it can end...and does when you see through the fictitious "me" that is being identified with and realize who/what you really are.
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the big question noone asks is... WHY do I think it is a good thing to make an 'end' to suffering? IS this really as right as people say? |
20-05-2017, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
the big question noone asks is... WHY do I think it is a good thing to make an 'end' to suffering? IS this really as right as people say?
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I never sought an end to suffering...but that is what happened after realizing who/what I really am. |
20-05-2017, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
WHY do I think it is a good thing to make an 'end' to suffering? IS this really as right as people say?
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Short answer to your second question: Yes. Long answer: Who in their right mind thinks suffering is the way to go in life? Religious fundamentalists and masochists perhaps, but that's it, and neither are in their right mind. |
20-05-2017, 05:03 PM
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I dunno...I think Oneness is easy to describe, Iamit...But...
I am a child of the 60s and 70s! 
And, suffering <>pleasure?...Agony <> ecstasy ?
There is a different plane of being...I've been there...and when there...it's all the same...pure experience, period.
Duality is gone...and there is no you ...there just is Is-ness. 
Pure agony....and pure bliss...the 2 sides of the same coin
Very transcendent stuff, rather than the average mind 'wavelength'.
There is a reason when tuned to 91.5 FM....it is impossible to receive input from 106.3
until your frequency is set.
Great thread.
So that which we do not understand, yet...just needs a shift in our perceptions.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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