Are dreamscapes the same as astral planes?

[Albalida]

Originally Posted by Lainey

Are dreamscapes the same as astral planes?

Sometimes.

I'm wondering how different this experience is to conscious astral projecting. How do the landscapes differ (if at all)?

Meditation AP's always begin in the room that I am meditating in.
I often have difficulty moving around.

Dreams can begin in any dreamscape.
Even if I make my way back, even when I'm flying, I get the sense that I am "solid" or at least equal to the material and surface tension of the dream realm.

But the landscapes can be the same, because my dreams are usually very vivid. I can walk into a dream of the room that I fell asleep in, or, after I meditate and I'm in the room that I'm meditating in I can go to a very strange dreamlike landscape. The difference is the "body" that I use.

And, from more experienced projectors, I heard you can make your astral body act more like a dream body in a dream setting (which means, like a physical body in a physical setting) by "grounding and centering". I never tried it that way, because I think the way I understand grounding and centering is different from the way others understand it.

Do the astral planes seem more real when one consciously projects from meditation, rather than sleep?

Yes, only because it's surprising. Because because dreams recycle a lot from waking life memory, instead of building new memories from experience (in general) then dreams can feel more "real".

I've never had a foggy OBE, though. I've had foggy dreams.


I don't know how to consciously go astral, from a dream. I just look back on the dream later, and get the nagging feeling that it was something else. In the dream itself, even if I'm lucid, I have no clue that it's anything more than my brain throwing random things up.