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19-11-2017, 12:12 PM
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To naturesflow: I hope you understand and accept that I felt posting this here was 'important', given that 'here' is where SD chose to share the 'story' of her self so openly in response to your "Becoming your Being" lead and follow-up presentations. I trust it will not unduly detract from your and others' mutual sharing in said regard.
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DS I surrendered the need to take control of the ship a long time back.
Feel free to speak as you need.
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“God’s one and only voice are Silence.” ~ Herman Melville
Man has learned how to challenge both Nature and art to become the incitements to vice! His very cups he has delighted to engrave with libidinous subjects, and he takes pleasure in drinking from vessels of obscene form! Pliny the Elder
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19-11-2017, 03:26 PM
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I am glad to have read this thread, on this forum i am looking for guidance a maybe a little direction. As long as I can remember I've felt like an outcast. The really funny thing is even in the spiritual community i feel as one. Honestly even more so. But I'll keep looking for the guidance i need. I've hurd many times over you cannot be a grounded person and spiritual at the same time. I feel that's just in balance. I've always been a confident person. But sometimes need a little help without being pushed away just because i might think differently. But i am always listening with a open mind and heart. But even here people get attacked for thinking different,or at best simply talk to themselves. But I'll keep looking, i have nothing but time
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19-11-2017, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Arizona, U.S.A
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Originally Posted by hallow
I am glad to have read this thread, on this forum i am looking for guidance a maybe a little direction. As long as I can remember I've felt like an outcast. The really funny thing is even in the spiritual community i feel as one. Honestly even more so. But I'll keep looking for the guidance i need. I've hurd many times over you cannot be a grounded person and spiritual at the same time. I feel that's just in balance. I've always been a confident person. But sometimes need a little help without being pushed away just because i might think differently. But i am always listening with a open mind and heart. But even here people get attacked for thinking different,or at best simply talk to themselves. But I'll keep looking, i have nothing but time
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Hello hallow
It occurs to me that you might receive guiding ideas and suggestions about directions which may be worth exploring if you started a thread requesting those in its title. Some may 'push you away' or feel like that. You may find what others say welcoming/welcome. It is up to you to choose to stand up for yourself and move 'ahead' by rejecting or deflecting or simply not responding to the former and positively engaging with the latter, I think.
My guess is that you are at the point in your development where you will find the exercise of doing so self-affirming and (even more) confidence building. (If your think-n-feel you are not at that point, I would suggest you find and engage with a professional counselor who has a 'spiritual' orientation in private.)
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19-11-2017, 06:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Thankyou that's lovely to read and feel your aware and moving through similarities.
My past life reads are opening more pronounced as I type. I get a real sense through all my connections where it all aligns and has been, why it is and is being now.
I had a profound opening directly connected to a healing session I was doing on another. It opened something quite amazing in relation to supporting others to break free from the "shackles". I am reading the body more in depth on every level for others open to receive, to support them, my feedback system is in over drive.. But its all wonderful in the "full potential" of my being and sharing.
Authenticity is a treat really..
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Hey there Naturesflow!
It really is so good to hear others get you and where you are at, I agree. And to feel the resonance in their words and their presence. It is very uplifting and affirming.
And so I just want to say, thank you so much Naturesflow for what you have shared and said. It moves me when I find that resonance, and although it's hard to articulate, I know you can appreciate my perspective.
I do resonate with what you've said about your past lives speaking to you and illuminating you within your current moment, very much so.
I'm so looking forward to reading what else you may share, and to many more So discussions and insights in future!
Peace & blessings
7L
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Bound by conventions, people tend to reach for what is easy.
Here we must be unafraid of what is difficult.
For all living beings in nature must unfold in their particular way
and become themselves despite all opposition.
-- Rainer Maria Rilke
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19-11-2017, 06:31 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Originally Posted by davidsun
Yup, tough-dung situation alright! I might be inclined to close my (empathy) heart and lash out in 'righteous' anger if I was in it myself.
Building on what 7L shared in relation to you, SD, I just want to offer my personal thought-and-feeling 'associations' (guesses?) in response to my experience of your sayings and doings. And these are that in a previous life you may well have been like and so done to others what she is like and has done and continues to do 'to' you in this one, and so, in league with your spirit-teacher/guides, you may have 'agreed' to have an incarnation wherein you 'suffered' the same kinds of things you 'caused' others to 'suffer' in said previous life, all as a challenge/opportunity for you to develop empathy for others by way of personally experiencing and so 'knowing' the kind of 'pain' that 'unempathy-etic' and 'antipathy-etic' treatment of others can both induce and inflict.
How you 'treat' you mother will, IMO, very much determine your own (and your spirit-teacher/guide's) 'judgment', i.e. 'assessment', as to whether or not you acquitted yourself well in face of such challenge and learned what to came here to learn - or whether you 'blew' the opportunity - from what you report, this still remains an 'open' (things could go either way) question.
Believe it or not, it may help if you register that fact that, based on how you have related to me and others here, I personally 'see' many elements of your mother's character 'in' you.
That being truly said and I hope 'heard', I also ask that you try to 'accept' (the possibility at least) that I empathize with all that you have 'suffered' in you present tied-together-as-mother-and-daughter 'predicament'. I do not look 'down; at you. I mean it when I say that I suspect that I myself might not 'do' well (good?) if placed in the same predicament.
To naturesflow: I hope you understand and accept that I felt posting this here was 'important', given that 'here' is where SD chose to share the 'story' of her self so openly in response to your "Becoming your Being" lead and follow-up presentations. I trust it will not unduly detract from your and others' mutual sharing in said regard.
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Davidsun, you make such an important point here...it's so important to choose wisely and consciously, and to strive to do so always with the highest good of all in mind and at heart.
Naturesflow and I have just been discussing the past-life awarenesses and how these illuminate the present situation. I know not everyone is currently privy and/or able to digest these illuminations.
And yet, regardless, it matters for eternity how we act and speak, what we intend and think on....it matters. No matter what, we should strive always to live from the centre of our being even whilst we are coming into our being more fully. We can strive to be more generous, to treat others with greater lovingkindness, to judge others more favourably or to reserve final judgment, to seek reconciliation with authentic remorse and contrition, and to leave open the door for others to reconcile with us.
If not us then who and if not now then when?
Peace & blessings
7L
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Bound by conventions, people tend to reach for what is easy.
Here we must be unafraid of what is difficult.
For all living beings in nature must unfold in their particular way
and become themselves despite all opposition.
-- Rainer Maria Rilke
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19-11-2017, 10:03 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Arizona, U.S.A
Posts: 3,454
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Originally Posted by 7luminaries
Davidsun, you make such an important point here... it's so important to choose wisely and consciously, and to strive to do so always with the highest good of all in mind and at heart.
Naturesflow and I have just been discussing the past-life awarenesses and how these illuminate the present situation. I know not everyone is currently privy and/or able to digest these illuminations.
And yet, regardless, it matters for eternity how we act and speak, what we intend and think on....it matters. No matter what, we should strive always to live from the centre of our being even whilst we are coming into our being more fully. We can strive to be more generous, to treat others with greater lovingkindness, to judge others more favourably or to reserve final judgment, to seek reconciliation with authentic remorse and contrition, and to leave open the door for others to reconcile with us.
If not us then who and if not now then when?
Peace & blessings
7L
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7L!
The source(s) which I found to most clearly and comprehensively reveal/cover reincarnation-related topics and issues are Michael Newton's books, Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls. I highly recommend these to anyone interested. Here are images of the back covers of my (now) well-worn copies of them:
Journey of Souls:
Destiny of Souls:
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20-11-2017, 02:40 AM
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Master
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Upper Midwest, U.S.A
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Originally Posted by davidsun
Hello hallow
It occurs to me that you might receive guiding ideas and suggestions about directions which may be worth exploring if you started a thread requesting those in its title. Some may 'push you away' or feel like that. You may find what others say welcoming/welcome. It is up to you to choose to stand up for yourself and move 'ahead' by rejecting or deflecting or simply not responding to the former and positively engaging with the latter, I think.
My guess is that you are at the point in your development where you will find the exercise of doing so self-affirming and (even more) confidence building. (If your think-n-feel you are not at that point, I would suggest you find and engage with a professional counselor who has a 'spiritual' orientation in private.)
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i have been doing that, who knows maybe I am just not straight forward enough in my thoughts. I consider myself a simple ,grounded, spiritual, person. From what i saw so far that seems to not exist. Specially when i do have questions or want to give a response.
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20-11-2017, 03:46 AM
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Thanks for the little pep talk Davidsun. I thought about what you wrote and ready for another round.
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