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Old 27-05-2017, 07:35 PM
Ghost_Rider_1970 Ghost_Rider_1970 is offline
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Thanks everyone for your input. I don't really mind what the ultimate reality (if there is one) is for me when my time times but sometimes I feel sad at the thought that my loved ones who have passed are no longer who they were and have just been absorbed into Pure Awareness. It makes them sound quite unreachable. I've been questioning who each of us are before we became our current personalities. Of course I can't possibly know, which feels frustrating at times.

I think you touch on such an important aspect of spirituality - the nature of death :)

We only know our physical form through viewing our reflection. Where our perfect creation doesn't stop at our fingertips but extends into the infinity of the Universe that is also us. So rather than us each having a soul within our bodies, our bodies are each the Soul of the Universe.

This supports the idea that with us all coming from the very same 'Source' then everyone and everything is consciousness. So when each of us die another person is born, and with us all coming from the same Universal Consciousness they too are us - but simply viewing their 'I' experience from their perspective. In effect, by seeing beyond our physical self we come to appreciate that each of us is an aperture of the Universe viewing itself from our individual viewpoint. So once we realise we are not completely separate individuals it also takes away our fear and doubt when it comes to death.

Consequently death is a beautiful cycle of life, where the Universe continues experiencing itself through renewed senses in each person born. So when I die I will in effect be reborn through someone else, through everyone who has been, through everyone who is yet to incarnate, through everyone in existence - through you :)

From this view of me being the Universe rather than an individual, I will be eternal through the entirety of ongoing Universal Creation.

This is what I truly believe by reincarnation. That 'I' as an individual do not reincarnate, but 'I' as the Universe always reincarnate through everything that is created. So even though my memory system will disappear when I die, 'I' as the Universe can continue to experience itself through each of us anew without any preconceptions.

For me, this is a truly magical realisation with me seeing everyone and everything the very same way. Without any prejudice or distinction. So when I look at everyone; the beautiful stars in the night sky; the blue mountain lake; or the wind blowing through the trees I don't just see them as inanimate objects - I see them as I see myself. That they are also me.

Another way of looking from our human viewpoint of concentrated consciousness is to imagine the most beautiful piece of music you have ever heard and multiply this by infinity. This then becomes the music of life, where each of us is a note that plays during our existence. Those closest to us play so perfectly - and at the same resonance as us. Where those that don't still play so perfectly too. So as one note fades out another begins. The importance in this analogy it to appreciate that the music plays all by itself, and not by a Deity or a Creator. This then gives us Free Will without any predefined destiny or automation. So allows us to be who we are and become astounded at our own consciousness, the consciousness in others, the consciousness of the Universe.

So we find balance and harmony, so that our spirit is truly free.
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Old 28-05-2017, 01:22 PM
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This supports the idea that with us all coming from the very same 'Source' then everyone and everything is consciousness. ...

From this view of me being the Universe rather than an individual, I will be eternal through the entirety of ongoing Universal Creation.

This is what I truly believe by reincarnation. That 'I' as an individual do not reincarnate, but 'I' as the Universe always reincarnate through everything that is created. So even though my memory system will disappear when I die, 'I' as the Universe can continue to experience itself through each of us anew without any preconceptions.
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Another way of looking from our human viewpoint of concentrated consciousness is to imagine the most beautiful piece of music you have ever heard and multiply this by infinity. This then becomes the music of life, where each of us is a note that plays during our existence. Those closest to us play so perfectly - and at the same resonance as us. Where those that don't still play so perfectly too. So as one note fades out another begins. The importance in this analogy it to appreciate that the music plays all by itself, and not by a Deity or a Creator. This then gives us Free Will without any predefined destiny or automation. So allows us to be who we are and become astounded at our own consciousness, the consciousness in others, the consciousness of the Universe.

Yes, a fine way of 'seeing' self-included Being, Ghost Rider. And yery well said, IMO. The most important question and consequent realization then becomes not who (which is an 'individualistic' concept) but what we are. Here is an excerpt from a treatise I am in the process of composing which aims to 'address' this matter (or 'spirit' rather ).

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It has more recently struck me that developments in the field of modern computer systems may provide us with an even more illustrative model for the universally creative, feedback-loop based interfusion of the Essence of Creativity and the Life of every individual and amalgamated aspect of Its expression, which is what I think Jesus’ saying “I*am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.” (John 14:20) references, of which I now speak. To explore this, imagine if you will that the main aim or goal of said Essence’s ‘program’ – the primary motive, i.e. desire, ensconced in its ‘source code’ – is to maximally express and thereby experience Love and Joy, to Joyfully express and experience Love and Lovingly express and experience Joy to the greatest possible degree in every possible way, or something akin to that.* (Not that this is the only available supposition, mind you. Many, for example, who think and feel that the expression and experience of Power and Success is Life’s prime imperative and so believe that maximal actualization and experience of these must be the cat’s meow, idiomatically speaking.)

Then, to picture the activity of the Living Entity of our Creation, imagine a universe-sized network made up of an infinite array of banks upon banks of computers matrixially web-strung together by way of both parallel and series connections, all simultaneously, individually and together multi-processing the above referenced Love and Joy ‘program’, each processor and every amalgamation thereof functionally outputting the ‘solution’ it ‘calculates’ will most probably yield the greatest possible Love and Joy ‘result’ in its case (as far as it can prognostically project, that is), which ‘solution’ then operationally functions as input in relation of any and all associated processors to whatever extent they ‘calculate’ it is relevant to their own Love and Joy process, with said output-n-input data-packet sequences co-actively rippling and reverberating around the network, sparking Love and Joy focused perceptions and decisions (i.e. experiences and expressions) which conjointly determine what takes place here, there and everywhere in ‘the body’ of said Entity* over the course of time. (“In him we live, and move, and have our being” (Acts 17:28) is how this was articulated by one who envisioned said Entity as being the male ‘Son’ of the Spirit of the universal ‘Father’ of Being, two millennia ago.)

It's great to be able to 'rub shoulders' with another comprehensive thinker!

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