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Old 14-10-2016, 03:58 AM
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Noah's Flood - The Mystery

God tells us we live in a Multiverse composed of at least 2 or more Universes or Worlds. The first (Adamí world) was totally destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and itís gone forever . ll Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned and will also be dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 The third Heaven or World is forever. Rev. 22:5

Noahís Flood:

The idea that Noah brought a lot of animals/creatures/fowls of the air inside the Ark is UnScriptural. The total number could easily have been less than a thousand creatures.

There was no need to bring those animals/creatures and fowls of the air which were created from the water on the 5th Day, Gen 1:21 since those same kinds of creatures; animals; and fowls of the air (Their Kinds - Trinity) were also brought forth on our present Planet and had been here for Billions of years Before the Ark arrived and floated in the vicinity of Mt. Ararat (Lake Van. Turkey) some 10k years ago.

The creatures; animals and fowls of the air which were aboard the Ark were the ones which Jesus, the Son, made with His own Hands (His Kinds). Science calls them common ancestors. The common ancestor of All Humanity on this present planet was a direct descendant of Adam, the first Human, and his name was Noah.

Humans were scattered all over the face of the Earth from Babel which was built by the son of one of Noah's grandsons, Cush. Gen 10:10 Science agrees and Human civilization can be traced to Noah's arrival some 10k years ago just south of Mt. Ararat.

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Old 14-10-2016, 04:27 AM
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The Flood and it's consequences, as told in Genesis, is truly an amazing story. It's a terrific mystery, when unraveled, displays the Supreme Intelligence of our God and tells us of our True Origins.

In order to understand the Flood, one must understand the following:

The world of Adam was an enclosed Biosphere much smaller than our world, which was totally surrounded by the firmament which protected it from the water into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8

Adam's Earth was not on a Rocky Planet, like our present Earth, since it was "clean dissolved" in the Flood, and rocks don't dissolve in water (Isa 24:19 KJV) when the windows of their heaven were opened (Gen 7:11).

This Earth, the Earth of Adam, was Flat. It's highest mountain elevation was only about 15 cubits in height (22 1/2 feet), while ours measures 27k ft above sea level... and their entire Earth had only 4 Rivers while our present Earth has thousands, indicating it was much smaller than our Earth.

Is there any wonder that ancient man believed the stories of a Flat Earth? Put solid dry land on top of water in an enclosed Biosphere and you will also find that Genesis 1:9-10 describes a Flat Earth. It's the Flat Earth of Adam which was "clean dissolved" in the waters of a Universal Flood.

[Isa 24:19 KJV] The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

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Old 15-10-2016, 07:26 PM
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And then what happened? :)
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Old 16-10-2016, 12:50 AM
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God also tells us HOW and WHEN the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) on this Earth inherited the Human intelligence which is unique to Adam and his descendants. God calls prehistoric people whose origin was in the water on Day 5, the sons of God.

The sons of God married and produced the Humans on the first Earth, which was destroyed in the Flood.

Genesis 4 tells us that Cain married and produced Enoch, his son, with a woman who could ONLY have evolved from the water (Gen 1:21), as God told us.

Today's Science confirms that EVERY living creature MUST have water to live since EVERY cell in our body would die without it.

No ancient man could have possibly known this. Read it for yourself:

Gen. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men (Heb -Adam), and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The giants were giants intellectually as is shown at the end of the verse. They were the Humans of the first Earth, (Cainí descendants) and they had agriculture, smelting, city building, and technology with little of NO evolution. Adam farmed with NO evolution, and Cain built a city with NO evolution, showing that Human intelligence is Superior to ANY creature made from the water.

The fulfillment of the prophecy of " and also after that " was fulfilled when Noah brought the human intelligence of Adam to Northern Mesopotamia in the mountains of Ararat. This happened some 10k years ago and the FIRST human cities and the FIRST agriculture, and the ONLY Human civilization on our Earth, PROVES it.

SUDDENLY, the sons of God, (prehistoric mankind) evolved the Human intelligence of Adam and changed from animal to Human intelligence. Prehistoric mankind settled down, built houses, cities, and developed math and writing, proving that anything is possible IF you have the intelligence of the first Human, Adam. Below is the empirical record of the arrival of the first Humans on this Earth:


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Old 16-10-2016, 06:15 PM
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Today's Science confirms that EVERY living creature MUST have water to live since EVERY cell in our body would die without it.

No ancient man could have possibly known this. Read it for yourself:
Now that's a stretch. Every plant, bug, rodent, bird, snake, jackal, elephant, and giraffe knows that they need water to survive. Everything which is naturally-derived knows what it needs to do in order to survive, without specifically knowing why this need is important.

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The fulfillment of the prophecy of " and also after that " was fulfilled when Noah brought the human intelligence of Adam to Northern Mesopotamia in the mountains of Ararat. This happened some 10k years ago and the FIRST human cities and the FIRST agriculture, and the ONLY Human civilization on our Earth, PROVES it.

SUDDENLY, the sons of God, (prehistoric mankind) evolved the Human intelligence of Adam and changed from animal to Human intelligence. Prehistoric mankind settled down, built houses, cities, and developed math and writing, proving that anything is possible IF you have the intelligence of the first Human, Adam. Below is the empirical record of the arrival of the first Humans on this Earth:
Agriculture was a nightmare for the early humans to adapt to according to all studies on the matter. Our dietary diversity shrank dramatically in favor of the few crops that they were able to tend to. Our bodies weren't built for this kind of labor which is reflected in the bone records of those who first ventured in that direction. It was at this point that we began "owning" land and then needed to protect it from others. Along with such "ownership" evolved our self-centered behaviour, where us, against them, became the norm.

You are glossing over massive amounts of information by telling this story, with little to go by but the thoughts of early, superficially educated thinkers, then cobbled together via a political agenda some years later, and still trolling.

It was a fun ride though, you're very creative. I enjoy watching how other people are dreaming. :)


THE MAMAS AND THE PAPAS LYRICS
"Dream A Little Dream Of Me"

[Spoken:]
"...you keep pouring into one glass and you're never changing the straw."
"And now to sing this lovely ballad, here is...Mama Cass."

Stars shining bright above you;
Night breezes seem to whisper 'I love you'.
Birds singing in the sycamore tree.
Dream a little dream of me.

Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you -
Sweet dreams that leave all worries far behind you.
But in your dreams, whatever they be,
Dream a little dream of me.
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Old 17-10-2016, 12:14 AM
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Your argument is flawed and convoluted - based only on your unsupported opinion..

Apes and their descendants don't grow crops. This was true until the last less than 1% of the time since science teaches that "humans" diverged from Chimps (accordingly), which was 6 Million years ago and these "humans" (accordingly) NEVER grew a crop. When you pin them down, they say that humans didn't become "fully human" until 200k years ago.

Of course they then cannot explain WHY it took some 190k years before these "humans" grew themselves something to eat.

The answer is simple. Prehistoric people, who descended from animals, did NOT have the Human intelligence which ONLY the descendants of Adam, the first Human, was made with. Adam's descendants arrived on the Ark and human farming began.

Since prehistoric people began to diverge from Chimps some 6 Million years ago, this means that for more than 99% of the time since then, prehistoric people NEVER planted a crop, built a house, or had ANY of the traits of modern Humans. This is because they were NOT humans since they did NOT descend from Adam. Only the descendants of Adam are Humans.

After so many years of study, Science finally agress to the Scripture (written 3k years ago) that all living things evolved from the water along with every other living creature, animals and fowl of the air, since living cells cannot live without liquid water. That's is also exactly why they are looking for possibility of water existence in other planets.

Adam was a Special Creation, made like Jesus, to be an Eternal Being, like God. Adam was FIRST made Gen 2:4-7 and had an intelligence like God's, Gen 3:22 which is superior to any other living creature, since Humans are destined to have dominion over Heaven. Gen 1:28

Prehistoric man was NOT made with an intelligence level like God's but was made to be compatible with Humans sexually. This happened on the 5th Day when God (Elohim-The Trinity) created and brought forth from the water EVERY living creature that moves EXCEPT Humans, since Adam had lived with Jesus for Billions of years (as his meet) BEFORE these creatures were made from the water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21

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Old 17-10-2016, 02:28 AM
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Your argument is flawed and convoluted - based only on your unsupported opinion..

Apes and their descendants don't grow crops. This was true until the last less than 1% of the time since science teaches that "humans" diverged from Chimps (accordingly), which was 6 Million years ago and these "humans" (accordingly) NEVER grew a crop. When you pin them down, they say that humans didn't become "fully human" until 200k years ago.
Humans started growing crops around 10,000 years ago, and "homo sapiens" were established as a separate species around 2 million years ago. For the record.

Meanwhile the points you make are best described by your own words: "Your argument is flawed and convoluted - based only on your unsupported opinion.."

Remove the bible and you generally have nothing. And you're like the only one I've seen that's warped the bible in this way. Well played. :)
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Humans started growing crops around 10,000 years ago, and "homo sapiens" were established as a separate species around 2 million years ago. For the record.

Meanwhile the points you make are best described by your own words: "Your argument is flawed and convoluted - based only on your unsupported opinion.."

Remove the bible and you generally have nothing. And you're like the only one I've seen that's warped the bible in this way. Well played. :)

I present You as factual evidence that God created and made everything that moves, including Humans and the prehistoric people - described as sons of God by the Scripture.

All Humans descended from Adam, the first Human. Evols and Religionist / Pretenders have No idea How or When we inherited our Human Intelligence, but Moses knew, and told of it more than 3k years ago. Gen 6:4

This evidence, which agrees with every true discovery of Science, History, is True to Scripture, and shows that most of You would Not be here, to post your ideas, if Noah had not brought Human Intelligence to this "Planet of Apes" - Evols Term.

The fact that you can organize a thought, and type it into your computer, separates you from all other animals, and identifies you as "Human".

Mindless Evolution nor Uncaring Nature produced Human Intelligence. That's the Big Lie and that's Evolutionism, the Evol Religion. No Un-Intelligent entity, nor Flawed Theory, ever produced anything. Jesus made it or it's Not here.

Evols, Religionist and Pretenders... please state Factual Evidence of your Religious Faith here.

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Old 17-10-2016, 03:26 AM
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Jesus made it or it's Not here.
So if it's here then Jesus made it? Wouldn't that then also include "hate, selfishness and greed"?, pain and suffering, oh, and machine guns too? Those are here...? It's pretty convenient that you would get to 'idealistically' choose, and then project, what a jesus would make. For humans to gain "Intelligence" is a truly mixed bag.
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So if it's here then Jesus made it? Wouldn't that then also include "hate, selfishness and greed"?, pain and suffering, oh, and machine guns too? Those are here...? It's pretty convenient that you would get to 'idealistically' choose, and then project, what a jesus would make. For humans to gain "Intelligence" is a truly mixed bag.

Pains and sufferings are part of our life here on earth and is subject to physical death. Deal with it and get use to it.... Don’t blame others for own' wrong doings, stupidity and ignorance….

The reward of eternal life is in the new heaven and new earth to come - after physical death….only if you believe and have faith in the Son of God, as your God and Saviour. It’s your own choice!

Deu 30:16 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:


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