Why music is inane and no one listens to it

[Altair]

Originally Posted by Gem

Do people actually like it? And if so, how is that possible?

We all have different tastes Gem! Some people will obviously like it, and some don't..

There's a lot of pointlessness and negativity in this thread over something so 'little'..
There's plenty of good music made today, as there has been in the past. Music is timeless.. I like music from all decades, tracks from video games you probably wouldn't like, and sounds for meditation..

I do encounter songs I dislike.. also when at the gym.. I just raise the sound of my own music that I'm listening to at the moment.. or I just embrace that moment.. you can't like everything can you.. don't let it get to your head, let it pass through..

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Altair

We all have different tastes Gem! Some people will obviously like it, and some don't.

There's a lot of pointlessness and negativity in this thread over something so 'little'..

It's recognition of aesthetic depth.

There's plenty of good music made today, as there has been in the past. Music is timeless.. I like music from all decades, tracks from video games you probably wouldn't like, and sounds for meditation..

I can discern between good music and inane music, but that has nothing to do with what I like.

I do encounter songs I dislike.. also when at the gym.. I just raise the sound of my own music that I'm listening to at the moment.. or I just embrace that moment.. you can't like everything can you.. don't let it get to your head, let it pass through..

It's worse than you imagine because Blah Blah Blah is plying on the Gym floor, another equally atrocious song is coming from group exercise room (along with the instructor yelling motivation), and another terrible song comes from the spin bike room all at the same time. People don't seem to notice the cacophony of atrocity. They seem to think it sounds like music, but no one is listening to it anyway. Your solution is to drown out the noise with more noise, and isn't that the impetus to produce inanity in the first place - and why no one is actually listening?

[Astro]

Gem,

It's a cheap & cheerful dance tune that is clearly very popular according to the viewings & liking's on youtube. It's for the youth generation of today, & they are enjoying it it seems.
Because it's a dance tune it doesn't have to have deep & meaningful lyrics because it’s about having a bit of fun & escape. That's the meaning of it.

I can understand it being a bother in the gym cause my gym is a noisy place too.

[Gem]

Yea, most dance music is infantile nonsense with less appreciable content than a nursery rhyme, and when it dominates the social space, no one listens to it anyway, but there is an abundance of excellent music which could be used instead.



One of the tricks being used by unethical producers who don't care about truth, virtue and honest expression is they take a song from the past that has earned fame through brilliance, and produce a cheap knock off which desecrates all that is good. For example, Guns and Roses 'Sweet Child of Mine' was was fundamentally great! Good composition. Excellent catch riff. Brilliant musicianship and soaring vocals, and alive with the artists' vitality. This has recently been reproduced as an utterly degenerate version of the G&R original.



In contrast, The Cranberries "Zombie" has recently been remade by Bad Wolf's version. Performed by (actual) musicians who fully understand that when covering an older song, one must acknowledge and utmostly respect the brilliance of the original, and as a act of dedication, love and courage, the cover must do it justice!

[Altair]

Originally Posted by Astro

Because it's a dance tune it doesn't have to have deep & meaningful lyrics because it’s about having a bit of fun & escape. That's the meaning of it.

Exactly..
I think Gem is a bit overreacting. Best put his own music a bit louder (does not equate noise..!!) or just get over it and imagine himself elsewhere, not getting lost in the music.
You can't expect a gym to have 'high quality' music, it's a place for physical exercise.. the music isn't going to be contemplative or anything.
It's going to be simple and energetic.. dance music is often just that.

[Dargor]

It still beats me to this day how pop music is considered ''good'' for children even though it promotes sexual perversion and unfaithful relationships. But when it comes to stuff like metal, i't's automatically labeled as satanic even though it's lyrics has more meaning and can be very inspiring and uplifting. Besides that it's also REAL talent instead of the fake high pitched autotune voices in modern pop music. But as I said before in this thread, pop music is simple music for simple minded people with a mob mentality.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Altair

Exactly..
I think Gem is a bit overreacting. Best put his own music a bit louder (does not equate noise..!!)

To drown out the inanity which no one listens to.

just get over it and imagine himself elsewhere, not getting lost in the music.


You can't expect a gym to have 'high quality' music, it's a place for physical exercise.. the music isn't going to be contemplative or anything.
It's going to be simple and energetic.. dance music is often just that.

On the contrary, I expect music associated with the fitness industry to be inane.

[Altair]

Wow.. what a lot of generalizations. Pop music is incredibly diverse.. to say it's all sexual perversive and bad is just plain wrong. There's some music I don't like at all, for instance Ed Sheeran, but it's just a reflection of my likes and dislikes, it doesn't mean said artist is 'bad'...

As for metal.. I don't like it at all, but each to their own. I won't let my taste in music devalue other people's tastes. People find music inspiring and uplifting, regardless of the genre. You're not 'cool' or 'sophisticated' by liking an alternative genre and bashing a popular genre. It comes across as immature. You're not any more special than anybody else.. Music taste is an entirely subjective matter. Maybe that pop song you dislike means something for someone else. Maybe it reminds them of a happy moment, a lost loved one, or maybe they just like the rhythm or artist. Other people choose to associate certain genres with certain people they dislike, which is an act of self defeat! We all have our experiences, our moments of happiness, sadness, energetic moods and we seek music that embraces our feelings in the moment..

Originally Posted by Gem

On the contrary, I expect music associated with the fitness industry to be inane.

So now the question is.. what are you going to do about it?

[Dargor]

^ No need to feel so offended there, I'm actually only refering to modern pop music. I'm aware that 80s pop music at least had some class and it's fans were/are somewhat more sophisticated. But it's true that most modern pop music fans tend to be angsty teen girls with an identity crisis who feel the need to 'fit' with the herd rather than developing their own unique taste. But that's the whole point of pop music; mind control. Hypnotising people with subliminal messages. Mind you, I look down on such things and won't hesitate to speak my mind of it.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Altair

Wow.. what a lot of generalizations. Pop music is incredibly diverse.. to say it's all sexual perversive and bad is just plain wrong.

Firstly I can't remember anyone saying pop music is all sexually pervasive, ans secondly, I made generalisations when generalising, but also posted specific examples of songs to demonstrate what makes 'good'.

There's some music I don't like at all, for instance Ed Sheeran, but it's just a reflection of my likes and dislikes, it doesn't mean said artist is 'bad'...

That's because Sheeran is a great artist regardless of who likes him or not. I can't stand him myself, but he is an extraordinary talent.

As for metal.. I don't like it at all, but each to their own. I won't let my taste in music devalue other people's tastes. People find music inspiring and uplifting, regardless of the genre. You're not 'cool' or 'sophisticated' by liking an alternative genre and bashing a popular genre.

I recognise what is good and what is rubbish completely independently of what I like.

It comes across as immature. You're not any more special than anybody else..

That's an ironic sentence.

Music taste is an entirely subjective matter.

That's true for taste, preference, but I recognise something substantial beyond my own preferences.

Maybe that pop song you dislike means something for someone else.

I can't imagine Blah Blah Blah means much to anyone. I mean it's not because I hate it (though I do). It's because it's vacuous idiocy. I hate Sheeran's songs also, but I could articulate the multiple ways his music is appreciable. Sheeran will theme weddings and funerals, be dedicated to loved ones and invoke profound emotional feelings in a great many people. Blah Blah Blah will be 'liked' cuz 'it has a good beat'.

Maybe it reminds them of a happy moment, a lost loved one, or maybe they just like the rhythm or artist. Other people choose to associate certain genres with certain people they dislike, which is an act of self defeat! We all have our experiences, our moments of happiness, sadness, energetic moods and we seek music that embraces our feelings in the moment..


So now the question is.. what are you going to do about it?

Talk about it. I understand it is difficult for people to hear what I say, because it cuts through the deception and reveals the truth of the honest and heartfelt expression that defines genuine authenticity. Unlike the techno remake of 'Sweet Child of Mine' which is a cheap scam sold to the ignorant. The G&R original will be a song for all time, and the techno version will be thrown out like the faded cheap trinket it is. You'll see.