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Old 14-08-2016, 02:09 AM
shoresh shoresh is offline
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Thanks Jim for the personal story of your wife visits to you. Very beautiful.

Also as far as ITC goes, I have seen some of the research into this area.

What seems to me, after much research, is that there are almost opposite scenerios...

1) The NDE perspective...so many mention the famous "tunnel"...or some kind of pathway going over to this Light...it seems even for those individuals who didn't have a clue about anything, somehow this transportation method seems to be automated...and they find themselves over there....

2) The Seasoned, Out of Body Travelers. Many seem drawn to the Robert Monroe Institute...many of these seem to travel to otherworldly dimensions, and have developed the ability to move about...including into" receiving the New Dead" zone. (This is an actual course taught by the Robert Monroe Institute after you take the first two introduction course work) so seasoned OOBers seem to be able to move about freely between zones. Howevever, they do mention the assistance of higher level guides to assist those who need to move on (ie newly dead)...

3) The Light Itself, seems to indicate a Divine Being (beyond religion) as well as a Location that is full of Light (higher frequency??), guides/angels, and a healing area/space. All, seem to make up these higher levels seen as the Light...

It seems like having some idea of how one practically can navigate the non-physical is important, as well as some knowledge on how to guard your new energy body once the physical sheds. Though, like I wrote above, for many this just seems to be an automated process.

It does appear that lower thinking and not pursuing higher truths while in the body can lead to trouble.

I do agree and believe that prayers for the newly dead are important, as prayer does seem to have an important effect in the non-physical.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:25 PM
Journeyman Paul Journeyman Paul is offline
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Shoresh: regarding your original post:

It is my belief that most of the spirits using the Earth-based human experience for 'growth' and adventure have become addicted to the thrill, the risks, the gamble of taking on the deepest depths of depravity--which is also why this particular version of the human species has been on a rapidly descending spiral of I increasing ignorance, Fear, and depravity (to increase the excitement factor.) That is the reason the Earth School (or Earth Ride--as in roller coaster ride) has been able to attract nearly 6 billion "new" members over the past 100 years: the climate change-induced events and near-term human extinction that are in progress are the latest, greatest, hottest ticket at the fair; everybody wants to be here for the End of Days. (Remember, as spirits we know that the human life experience is just like a the purchase and use of a car--a temporary shell to get us around in a "foreign" environment.)
Many spirits leaving the Earth vehicles without having resolved their Earth bound fears, addictions, and ignorance may find themselves carrying a lot of emotional baggage into the spirit world and thus have trouble achieving unencumbered "freedom" in that world--may in fact find themselves anxious to go back to Earth to either continue their unfinished business or, in some cases, to continue their subservience to their addictions. Extrication from the Earth School emotional baggage and addictions requires work in order to achieve the same spiritual detachment from the illusions of four-dimensional physical-emotional identity that we once had before we decided to try out this Earth place. Those who have not successfully done the work, achieved the perspective of detachment, may find themselves caught up in all things-Earth related--may even 'forget' the fact that we are not Earth bound or Earth arisen; may even forget that we are individuated sparks of The Divine out for adventure and that there are an infinity of infinite choices of experiential forms and directions from which to choose for our adventuring.
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Old 16-09-2016, 11:48 AM
Jared.L Jared.L is offline
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Not all of them try to contact the living...some rest in peace. I think only those who are too concerned "tied"to their human life seek contact or want to stay close to their loved ones. For example if they grieve too much....
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Old 16-09-2016, 08:08 PM
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Let say that you are caught in a Trap, Chasing your own tail.
When you get released from this trap, you are not free as long as any part of you is still in this state.
They seek to Help Themselves, by helping you. And they aren't really Free as long as a part of them is still trapped.

If you dont want to understand this, accept it at least.
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