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Old 10-10-2018, 01:25 PM
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it still seems like something more extraordinary than other explanations.
Well yogis bi-locating are still just human beings living in the physical. So your observation makes sense as Jesus had transcended all that by then.

Esoteric Christianity identifies Jesus as a particularly special soul. It is said that once Jesus received or became the Christ, the Jesus soul departed the body and ascended to Spirit. The Christ then occupied the body of Jesus for three years. Jesus the soul is said to now be overseeing the evolution of our planet. So you see, some streams of thought say there is something unique about Jesus and his Christ union, different than the stories of other ascended masters.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:21 PM
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The book series "Masters of the Far East" discusses bi-location: yogis who appear in another location while their body remains elsewere in a trance state. The yogi who bi-locates appears in a body that is fully physical. So that would answer your question: astral projection is one spiritual ability; and bi-location another.

In one of the recent star wars movies the new ones, luke does this exactly the way you said here. Bi location an astral projection are not the same thing, but its easy to bi locate while astral projecting.. most the time, in some realms.

Iv heard someone explain how he was told beings bi locate, he said they brake there body down into one tiny electron then re manifest it in another place because all electrons have a symbiotic relationships i think..? any where in time an space.. i dunno..

An rainbow body is when one realises they are light, then become that and when they die people can tell they were realised because a rainbow normally appears over them when they die, there body also shrinks or something too after death.
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Old 25-10-2018, 12:40 PM
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I've been thinking about this on and off during the day, and one major difference between the recounting of Jesus returning and a light body is that Jesus was apparently quite physical when he returned, and this is a major difference that can't be explained by concepts of astral bodies.
There are actually some real-world explanations of this, depending on what you believe history-ways. It's been said that Jesus went AWOL for a time and that he went wandering. For instance, it's been said that he was in Scotland and spent time with the Druids, which is where the origins of the hymn "Jerusalem" is supposed to come from. In the hymn it asks "Did the King in ancient times walk walk upon England's mountains green?" If he's come to Edinburgh, yes he would have. It's also been said that he spent time with Buddha and was in Tibet as well, and that he wasn't a Christian but was a Buddhist. At the time there was a lot of cross-pollination of religious concepts between cultures, even Christ consciousness has its origins in ancient Egypt according to some.


Christianity has its agenda for portraying Jesus the way it did, and often that's what clouds the understandings.
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Old 25-10-2018, 09:48 PM
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There are actually some real-world explanations of this, depending on what you believe history-ways. It's been said that Jesus went AWOL for a time and that he went wandering. For instance, it's been said that he was in Scotland and spent time with the Druids, which is where the origins of the hymn "Jerusalem" is supposed to come from. In the hymn it asks "Did the King in ancient times walk walk upon England's mountains green?" If he's come to Edinburgh, yes he would have. It's also been said that he spent time with Buddha and was in Tibet as well, and that he wasn't a Christian but was a Buddhist. At the time there was a lot of cross-pollination of religious concepts between cultures, even Christ consciousness has its origins in ancient Egypt according to some.


Christianity has its agenda for portraying Jesus the way it did, and often that's what clouds the understandings.

Jesus in Scotland - interesting - not a story I had ever come across. I always attributed the origins of Jerusalem to the idea that Jesus visited southern Britain as a boy, accompanying Joseph of Arimathea, supposedly his uncle. Hence the associations with Glastonbury.

There is evidence that Jesus spent the lost years in India, Tibet and Ladakh, where he was known as Issa. This has been discussed previously on this forum.

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Old 25-10-2018, 10:11 PM
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According to Psychic Silvia Brown in one of her books, her spirit guide told her that Jesus didn't die on the cross. Apparently the guy who ordered his crucifixion, didn't really want to kill Jesus, he was just under pressure to by the people. So they decided to drug him instead to make him appear dead to appease the people. That's apparently why he was only up on the cross for like three hours. Apparently they normally keep them up a lot longer than that.

Doesn't someone give him some water while he's on the cross? Maybe it had a drug in it. Why else would you give water to someone who's about to die anyway? And they stuck him in his side to make sure he was dead. He didn't respond to it because he was out of it from the drug.

That could explain why his physical body wasn't in the tomb, and it could explain how he still had holes in his hands (or wrists) when his disciples saw him again. If he really came back in spirit, why would he still have holes in his hands?

She also said after his crucifixion he fled and went to other places where he was known by a different name. Which I thought was Issa. I don't know if any of this is true, but that's what she says in her book.
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Old 27-10-2018, 09:27 AM
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Jesus in Scotland - interesting - not a story I had ever come across. I always attributed the origins of Jerusalem to the idea that Jesus visited southern Britain as a boy, accompanying Joseph of Arimathea, supposedly his uncle. Hence the associations with Glastonbury.

There is evidence that Jesus spent the lost years in India, Tibet and Ladakh, where he was known as Issa. This has been discussed previously on this forum.

Peace.
The history is sketchy at best. There have been those who said Jesus didn't exist because there's no evidence of his ever having lived outside of the Bible, that's he's a rehash of Mithras, that he wasn't Christian at all but a a Nazorean Essene - which is more likely. The point is that there was a lot of cross-pollination of religious concepts in those days so it's really not that difficult to think that Christianity and anything else is a million miles apart. Come time what you end up trying to make sense of is not the factual history that's lost in time but the religious-political agenda.
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Old 27-10-2018, 12:11 PM
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According to Psychic Silvia Brown in one of her books, her spirit guide told her that Jesus didn't die on the cross. Apparently the guy who ordered his crucifixion, didn't really want to kill Jesus, he was just under pressure to by the people. So they decided to drug him instead to make him appear dead to appease the people. That's apparently why he was only up on the cross for like three hours. Apparently they normally keep them up a lot longer than that.

Doesn't someone give him some water while he's on the cross? Maybe it had a drug in it. Why else would you give water to someone who's about to die anyway? And they stuck him in his side to make sure he was dead. He didn't respond to it because he was out of it from the drug.

That could explain why his physical body wasn't in the tomb, and it could explain how he still had holes in his hands (or wrists) when his disciples saw him again. If he really came back in spirit, why would he still have holes in his hands?

She also said after his crucifixion he fled and went to other places where he was known by a different name. Which I thought was Issa. I don't know if any of this is true, but that's what she says in her book.

I've heard a similar story about him and he lived out his life in Japan.
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Old 27-10-2018, 12:16 PM
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There are many similarities between christianity and buddhism, as well as the story of jesus and the buddha.
Look at the miraculous qualities of the virgin Mary and Kuan yin the goddess of mercy and compassion.
I dream of these 2 great religions merging, but alas not in my lifetime.
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Old 04-11-2018, 12:48 PM
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Old 23-11-2018, 07:12 AM
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Now, the Rainbow body is a nonmaterial body, of course of high realisation. We read that just after death, or at the point of death, the individual attaining this rainbow body may either disintegrate into spiritual lights or the individual dies and rainbow lights are seen. The Rainbow body is not a physical body.

Now in the case of Jesus Christ, he was buried dead and spent three days in the tomb. He then resurrected in that same body, except that it was a much superior body; one that has excelled beyond physical condition (though he still had the wounds in his hands and feet) and death. Herein lies the difference between the Rainbow body and the Resurrected body.

One with a rainbow body who has died can appear in a body that appears physical but actually isn't physical but is just a materialized spiritual body. This has been seen; Angels, spirits and humans (living or dead) can do this. But Jesus Christ actually appears in that body that died and was buried, which is a whole different story.

Bilocation can only be performed by a living human being. One who is dead cannot do that.
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