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Old 21-05-2016, 04:46 AM
MARDAV70 MARDAV70 is offline
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MARDAV70, some of my greatest insights came from some of the darkest nights of my soul. Just about everyone I have met who found an inkling of enlightenment went through hell in order to find that heaven within. It is my belief that it is the destiny of every human being to eventually consciously merge with the light; we will all journey in our own way, in our own time, but we will all consciously return to that eternal source of unconditional love. IMHO.

Starman, I'm in complete agreement with your last line due to what I've experienced. Affirmation comes from what resonates from what others, such as yourself, have experienced and shared. All else is speculation, and yes, lol...that definitely applies to me, too. I'm by no means a sage...just a seeker and wonderer who's had a NDE.
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Old 21-05-2016, 11:04 AM
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The more we elaborate on something the farther away from it we get; we get to a point where we don’t have what we were once referring to rather all we have is our elaboration of what we were once referring to.

Life is very simple, death is very simple; one usually does not exist without the other. The world is not complicated, we human beings have become complicated, and we think we are the world but in my opinion the world is everything that is here.

We are dying and being reborn every moment of our existence; with each ending comes a new beginning and for something to begin something else must end. Even if we start something new what ends is the old way we used to do things.

In truth there are no endings or beginnings; there are only transformations; like rain appearing on an otherwise sunny day. In the human journey there are lots of scenes and lots of different scenery; people and things come an go in our life. We hold on and we let go, and we hold on and we let go…….

Next month my human body will be sixty-nine years old, as time is measured here on Earth; an the prospect of another personal new year. But that which I truly am exists in the eternal now which does not acknowledge the passing of time. Nonetheless, it is a gift to have been given the time to explore my own being; beyond all of the labels and explanations that we may have attached to it.
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Old 04-06-2016, 10:30 PM
baronesslucy baronesslucy is offline
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I don't think I would want to know the exact time or date when I crossed over. I do know that those who are ill sometimes subconsciously know that it's their time. I believe my mom knew but it was stored in the subconscious mind.

My mother who didn't like to travel in the summer due to the heat told me that we should visit family as she felt like it would be a while before she saw them again. We went and visited all of our family.

This was in August. A little over a month later, my mother died. A cousin told me after my mom died that she had a strong feeling that she wouldn't see my mom again for a very long time.
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Old 09-06-2016, 10:02 AM
A_Maine96 A_Maine96 is offline
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they refer to Kirlian photography or bioelectrography, which has now become the subject of mainstream research, and shows the bioelectrical field that remains after a leaf has been cut in two, or a limb removed, etc. Some patients report that they have nonverbal communication with their bioelectrical field. This does not surprise me.

I made a post aout this!
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...hlight=kirlian

And here's a vid I found that shows how to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87nbYGGR1k4
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Old 14-06-2016, 11:24 PM
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I have seen people die struggling with their death, in fear, etc., and I have seen others who have had a very smooth transition. Some die and the look of fear is still on their face after they have died and others die with light in their eyes and a look of peace on their face. Personally, I strive to have a smooth transition myself.

Once while working in a hospital in San Antonio, Texas a big drug kingpin was bought into the hospital all shot up. He had been in a gun fight with police. By all accounts he was a cruel real tough guy who had killed lots of people himself. He was talking bad when they wheeled him into the ER. But when the doctors said that his wounds were too great and that there was nothing they could do. That guy curled into a fetal position and cried like a baby because he knew he was going to die.

I have always wondered why we humans view death as a sad affair, and I do understand that it has more to do with the loss of a loved one than it does death itself. Those entities on the other side, if they have feelings, might feel like why do humans cry when one of them leaves their realm and enters our realm? In my opinion death is not the issue as much as how a person dies.

This brings to mind a friend of my father's. The guy had a bad infection, his gallbladder became so infected & inflamed they had a hard time actually finding it from where it had "glued", for lack of a better word, to the liver. He was obviously in severe pain.

And yet when they were wheeling him into the operating room, despite the fact that he was quite sickly and knew himself that there was a good possibility he would not come out again, he was cracking jokes the entire time with the nurses / doctors until they put him under.

He later became jaundiced due to a severe reaction [beginning stages of liver failure] to the antibiotics they gave him. He was still cracking jokes even like this, yellowed skinned & with barely enough energy to raise his arms yet alone sit up. To me he was someone that had accepted the fact he could very well die that hour so what good was crying about how "unfair" life was?

I mean that drug dealer shot to pieces - did he care one wit of the people he himself [or his colleagues] had put in early graves and yet he didn't have the courage not to cry like a newborn.


As someone who has survived 6 NDEs, seven if you count the severe meningitis before even a year old though do NDEs count for the really really young?, by now [age 30] I can't say I've ever seen a white light / tunnel or whatever but that might be because I am not Christian. Certainly people of different cultural beliefs all don't see the "white light".

Now I can't say I know when I'll die, hopefully having cheated death more than a few times I'll live a little longer before experiencing my own "Final Destination" ending.

After all, when it comes, I want to be one of those who faces death cracking jokes.
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Old 15-06-2016, 01:46 AM
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There are people who have a “death wish;” it is sort of like a passive suicidal ideation. They most often will take unnecessary risks or make themselves the target of a potentially lethal situation. A death wish is the desire for ones own death, but that desire may be subconscious, and the person usually tells no one about it, although their behavior says otherwise.

Usually these people often have a nihilistic outlook on life accompanied by a feeling of wanting to die. But there are some who have a death wish who will just do things deliberately that will make them unhappy; it confirms their nihilistic point of view.

When I worked in the mental health profession I came across people like this and their self talk was really self demeaning. Some were just having an episode while others may be locked into their own demise without thinking that they were in any way suicidal.

Another take on knowing when you are going to die.
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Old 15-06-2016, 04:22 AM
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The only time one ever feels truly alive is when they are dying.

I don't know the exact time and date of my death, but I have been told it's going to happen in 9 years time. I don't doubt it, given the wild life I have led.

I also get the occasional, overwhelming panic attack I have been hospitalised for...in fact, I'm not even going to know I am having a heart attack or a stroke until it kills me - which is the downside of having anxiety.

I don't fear death, but dying is another kettle of fish.

However, as with panic attacks that I think are gonna kill me...I'm like 'yeah, okay...bring it...let me see whatcha got...do your very worst' and then it goes away, after I have an astral event on the spot.

I just don't like the idea of being in an unrelenting pain state I cannot escape from, with death being the ultimate surrender to Divine will.
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Old 15-06-2016, 04:43 PM
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This brings to mind a friend of my father's. The guy had a bad infection, his gallbladder became so infected & inflamed they had a hard time actually finding it from where it had "glued", for lack of a better word, to the liver. He was obviously in severe pain.

And yet when they were wheeling him into the operating room, despite the fact that he was quite sickly and knew himself that there was a good possibility he would not come out again, he was cracking jokes the entire time with the nurses / doctors until they put him under.

He later became jaundiced due to a severe reaction [beginning stages of liver failure] to the antibiotics they gave him. He was still cracking jokes even like this, yellowed skinned & with barely enough energy to raise his arms yet alone sit up. To me he was someone that had accepted the fact he could very well die that hour so what good was crying about how "unfair" life was?

I mean that drug dealer shot to pieces - did he care one wit of the people he himself [or his colleagues] had put in early graves and yet he didn't have the courage not to cry like a newborn.


As someone who has survived 6 NDEs, seven if you count the severe meningitis before even a year old though do NDEs count for the really really young?, by now [age 30] I can't say I've ever seen a white light / tunnel or whatever but that might be because I am not Christian. Certainly people of different cultural beliefs all don't see the "white light".

Now I can't say I know when I'll die, hopefully having cheated death more than a few times I'll live a little longer before experiencing my own "Final Destination" ending.

After all, when it comes, I want to be one of those who faces death cracking jokes.

I don't think the tunnel is purely limited to Christian expectations is it, not going at least by what I've read?

What did you encounter on the other side, if youre happy to share?
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:48 PM
blueladybird73 blueladybird73 is offline
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My experiences

24 hours before my granddad passed over his clock stopped at the exact time he died. My mum died in February and the calendar kept falling off the wall and landing on February. I had an experience one evening. A normal evening, I was going to bed and my husband was coming out of the shower. Without hearing or seeing anything (sorry, difficult to explain) but I felt my husband's death approaching and suddenly getting closer. He was 46 and perfectly healthy. I knew that it was God's will and there was nothing I could do about it and also hoped that perhaps it was just my imagination. I did tell him how much he ment to me that night and I'm glad I did as he died suddenly 6 months or so after that. So yes, I do believe that people know when they are going to die and possibily other people too.
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Old 09-07-2016, 12:12 AM
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BlueLadyBird, I am sorry for the loss of your dear husband. What you describe is a "knowing", somehow certain knowledge beyond our five senses that we become aware of on a level we do not normally access.
My son had very strong "knowings", I was with him during the first prominent one. I also had them regarding him.
I have read the Dalai Lama claims that people know up to three years in advance. I think certain ones do.
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