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04-07-2018, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SerendipityLizard
It’s okay. :) . Haha, sometimes I make misunderstandings like that with people myself. All is forgiven.
Many of you are not wrong, in fact, many of what you say around here is wise. But the way you teach these ideas seem very vague and rushed to the conclusions without explaining the reasons behind them well.
There needs to be beliefs that act as logical and compassionate foundations for other beliefs, and skipping to high level concepts without exploring the basics to teach is unfortunate. We don’t teach Calculus to preschool children. Why are people doing the same thing in spirituality?
I thought truth was all about questioning assumptions, yet people here just skip to conclusions without debating or explaining the reasons behind their arguments, haha.
I suggest people here make critics believe you by explaining to them more, not ignoring what they question around it. Believing wise sayings for the wrong reasons isn’t teaching independence of thought, and I hope people recognize that.
Did I not say that I treat spirituality like a science?
Hope you enjoy your free will.
SL.
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I consider myself more student then a teacher in this whole spiritual thing. I try to learn from everything. Most of my spiritual experiences comes from nature and the feel of it. I don't know anyone's personal experience ,I just know my own and do my best to help others through my own experiences. I did try to break it down in a example but then people took it personally and it was never ment that way. I can re word it if you really want me to but it would mean the same either way.
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04-07-2018, 09:27 AM
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@angelic thanks for that simple version of either love or hate. Haha it is like I just put a piece of my puzzle in to see a clearer picture. I am still very curious about love, and how stuck emotions in my body can cloud my ability to feel and express it clearly. About free will, now I question whether I have it; at least if I want to be me my only choice seem to be in love. So how do you see free will if you don't mind
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04-07-2018, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Melahin
@angelic thanks for that simple version of either love or hate. Haha it is like I just put a piece of my puzzle in to see a clearer picture. I am still very curious about love, and how stuck emotions in my body can cloud my ability to feel and express it clearly. About free will, now I question whether I have it; at least if I want to be me my only choice seem to be in love. So how do you see free will if you don't mind
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for stuck emotions and so on. Life can be hard on people who are sentive. So we build walls to protect ourselves. I have a few of my own, some are healthy some are not. When I have problems in this area, I just remember this little qoute. A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's not where it's meant to be. As for actually seeing free will..... Hhhmmmm. I would take the exact same way to work everyday. I saw the same, felt the same, and encountered the exact same people. Then one day I started taking a different way, I got lost once or twice because I didn't know that way but I figured it out. Once I learned that way I was good. Then I started experiencing new things, hmmmm a restaurant I never saw before maybe I'll have a cup of coffee and buy a lottery ticket. Ooooh the ticket is a winner! I won $2.00. not much but it will pay for my coffee. That's kind of how free will looks. Free will and every action has a reaction works together.
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04-07-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hallow
for stuck emotions and so on. Life can be hard on people who are sentive. So we build walls to protect ourselves. I have a few of my own, some are healthy some are not. When I have problems in this area, I just remember this little qoute. A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's not where it's meant to be. As for actually seeing free will..... Hhhmmmm. I would take the exact same way to work everyday. I saw the same, felt the same, and encountered the exact same people. Then one day I started taking a different way, I got lost once or twice because I didn't know that way but I figured it out. Once I learned that way I was good. Then I started experiencing new things, hmmmm a restaurant I never saw before maybe I'll have a cup of coffee and buy a lottery ticket. Ooooh the ticket is a winner! I won $2.00. not much but it will pay for my coffee. That's kind of how free will looks. Free will and every action has a reaction works together.
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Haha, that's a great explanation. That's the kind of specific and foundational kind of teaching I'd like to see.
Hope you and Melahin can benefit. Well, my work here is done.
See ya.
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04-07-2018, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Melahin
@angelic thanks for that simple version of either love or hate. Haha it is like I just put a piece of my puzzle in to see a clearer picture. I am still very curious about love, and how stuck emotions in my body can cloud my ability to feel and express it clearly. About free will, now I question whether I have it; at least if I want to be me my only choice seem to be in love. So how do you see free will if you don't mind
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I didn't say about love and 'hate '. I didn't use the word 'hate'. I said love and fear. It's a different thing 🙂
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04-07-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by angelic star
I didn't say about love and 'hate '. I didn't use the word 'hate'. I said love and fear. It's a different thing 🙂
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Haha, that's an interesting perspective. Maybe I can learn from you after all. .
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04-07-2018, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SerendipityLizard
Haha, that's an interesting perspective. Maybe I can learn from you after all. .
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Interesting perspective isn't it ? I think you are a very jolly and a very smart person I am sure you did. Thanks for quoting me.
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04-07-2018, 01:01 PM
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Yyyyaaaaayyyyy! We're all happy, but what happened to Slayer, the guy we we're trying to help out in the first place.
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04-07-2018, 01:16 PM
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^ Fortunately (or unfortunately) I'm still alive. I just got back from work not too long ago and feeling somewhat exhausted.
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I would like another shot at this one. What I first said came out wrong. Everyone has hopes and dreams, the best ones are the hardest to get that's what makes them the most rewarding. Try not to get consumed in the fight of it. As long as you one day reach your dreams does it matter what path you took? I am under the impression you want to take 1 certain road to your dreams.
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Ah makes a bit more sense now. And no worries, I'm not always good with wording things neither.
To be honest, I've never really thought about paths but I don't really care which path I have to take to get there, although I would prefer an easy one since I already have it difficult enough with other things. Also, this dream of mine isn't exactly something extroardinary or out of question though, or at least it shouldn't be. So I'm not sure if there are even many paths to it in the first place, but who knows.
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04-07-2018, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by angelic star
I didn't say about love and 'hate '. I didn't use the word 'hate'. I said love and fear. It's a different thing 🙂
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I know; sometimes words comes out in familiar patterns I meant to use the word fear... haha
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