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Old 28-02-2020, 09:35 PM
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Does the idea that 'this place' is a Dream upset you?

Does the thought that this place that you dwell in now, is a Dream bother you?
Why?
Does it seem impossible? Like, 'How could it be!?", as you knock on wood.
Does it seem to negate everything that happens to you - that is done around you, that you do for others?

What is the fear or the agitation surrounding this?
Let's get rid of that pesky fear or even anger!

Is it that you think this being a Dream makes thing worthless here? All your loves and wonderful experiences?
Or does it just boggle your logical mind? And kinda make you frustrated?
We have some very smart people here, maybe it could be tackled.
OR maybe even a bit explained!

Rem - if this is really an Illusion ...it's a darn good one...or else it wouldn't be called an Illusion!!



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Old 28-02-2020, 09:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Does the thought that this place that you dwell in now, is a Dream bother you?
Why?
Does it seem impossible? Like, 'How could it be!?", as you knock on wood.
Does it seem to negate everything that happens to you - that is done around you, that you do for others?

What is the fear or the agitation surrounding this?
Let's get rid of that pesky fear or even anger!

Is it that you think this being a Dream makes thing worthless here? All your loves and wonderful experiences?
Or does it just boggle your logical mind? And kinda make you frustrated?
We have some very smart people here, maybe it could be tackled.
OR maybe even a bit explained!

Rem - if this is really an Illusion ...it's a darn good one...or else it wouldn't be called an Illusion!!




Nope, not in the least.

Then again my understanding or impression is it's unreal in the sense it's just not real enough. By that I mean it's finite in space and time. It had a beginning and will have an end, however it's a manifestation within an Absolute reality.

Call that Absolute reality God, Brahman, Consciousness, Unified Field, doesn't really matter. It is what It is, regardless the label.
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Old 28-02-2020, 10:00 PM
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Like a dream everything appears so real at times and other times so dream like. Dreams and reality. Is there much of a difference?
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Old 28-02-2020, 10:08 PM
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So, we'll all help some others.
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Old 28-02-2020, 10:12 PM
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In a dream, i guess it doesn't matter. But if it makes your dream better then why not.
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Old 28-02-2020, 10:35 PM
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I think the proof that we're ok with this being a dream, is if we're afraid of this life/body death or not.
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Old 29-02-2020, 01:07 AM
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It doesn't upset me.

I experienced death through regression many times. When you die, it feels exactly as it feels when you wake up from sleep. You wake up to another you than the one who just passed. You are more lucid, but not the perfect soul some religions preach. You are formless, and can imagine, and create anything you want, like in a lucid dream.

The difference between a lucid dream and the afterlife, is that from a nightmare you wake up, while if your afterlife emotions degenerate into a nightmarish scenario, you get born (you fall asleep). Until you develop your intellect and learn to master your emotions, you can't stay long into afterlife. You can incarnate willingly too, you don't have to wait to be precipitated into an incarnation.

Awake life is like a regular (non-lucid) dream. You don't know who you are, and react to whatever happens to you, with almost no control. In a dream, when you realize you're dreaming you become lucid. In the awake life, when you realize you're dreaming you become enlightened.

Surely, anybody can form their own opinion about this by learning regression. The trick is to be able to dissociate from your beliefs and expectations, and not let them distort your experience. This is something that most mediums don't do.
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Old 29-02-2020, 01:33 AM
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Perhaps the first line of contemplation should rest speculation on whether this is a dream or reality, just like when we dream, it seems like reality within the dream.

What is actually relevant is our moment to moment response, our reflex instinct, our state of consciousness or awareness, within the events playing out.

Once we reshape our own orientation, then we discover, layer by layer, veils of what we call maya, falling aside.

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Old 29-02-2020, 02:10 AM
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The real question should be . . . exactly HOW is this a dream ? ! What is really meant by “all of this is only a dream.” In what way is this physical reality a dream?

To dismiss all of this as a dream and that it doesn’t actually count or is unreal . . . or anything along those lines . . . is NOT the issue or point of “this is a dream.”

If people really and vividly knew the principle behind “this is a dream” . . . their approach to their own spiritual life would drastically change.

Please dismiss this post since it does not follow the popular paradigm.
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Old 29-02-2020, 03:20 AM
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How is this a dream? How is this not a dream? What is a dream? In a dream do you believe you are dreaming? What is reality? Is reality real? What separates dreams from reality? Is dreaming apart of reality? Or is reality a part of our dream state existence? What makes one thing real while another not? Who decides what is real and what's not?
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