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Old 18-04-2019, 07:14 PM
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Are ndes satanic deceptions

How do we know ndes are not deceptions caused by satan what proof is there that theyre not?
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Old 18-04-2019, 09:53 PM
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First, you would have to develop your inner, natural, innate 'truth meter' or heart meter.
How do you know anything is true, my friend...trust your self....trust your gut.

Read 25 NDE's what do they tell you? Nothing we say can say can
convince you, imo.
Good luck with this.
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Old 30-04-2019, 09:03 PM
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How do we know ndes are not deceptions caused by satan what proof is there that theyre not?


Why is it important to you? What makes you think Satan has anything to do with an NDE?
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:24 PM
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The bible says satan masquerades as an angel of light
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Old 01-12-2019, 04:19 PM
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The bible says satan masquerades as an angel of light
So be careful you don't get fooled. Simple.
How do you do that?
Trust God, rely on God, ask God for protection always, I say.
He hasn't steered me wrong yet!
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:11 PM
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How do we know ndes are not deceptions caused by satan what proof is there that theyre not?
NDEs are peeks into NDEers' beliefs. NDEs aren't deceptions in those NDEers' realities, but may be far from whatever the wider reality is.

If you believe there is a satan, then in your reality you'll experience it. So, work on changing your limiting beliefs!
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:40 PM
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NDEs are peeks into NDEers' beliefs.

This statement seems a bit curious when you read so many accounts of NDEs which are a complete surprise to the person experiencing the NDE, sometimes completely contradicting their personal beliefs (e.g. Eben Alexander).

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Old 02-12-2019, 09:59 AM
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This statement seems a bit curious when you read so many accounts of NDEs which
are a complete surprise to the person experiencing the NDE, sometimes completely contradicting
their personal beliefs (e.g. Eben Alexander) Peace
Oh - good point! Btw, Eben's talks on youtube at speaking engagements are so much better than his book!
I also read some attempted suicides, and boy, were THEY surprised since many
didn't believe in an afterlife of any kind ---let alone so much kindness and love!
But, I understand my beliefs would be somewhat reflected in an NDE - like Kwan Yin probably will not be appearing to me!
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:23 AM
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Christians are not the only ones that get NDEs you know. Satan is a thoroughly Christian (and Islamic) concept, it does not exist in other religions and cultures.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:27 PM
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NDEs are peeks into NDEers' beliefs. NDEs aren't deceptions in those NDEers' realities, but may be far from whatever the wider reality is.


In general, you raise a valid point that NDEs are peeks into NDEers' beliefs.

However, in my own personal NDE where I emerged symptom-free from a 3-day "irreversible coma", the visions in that state were completely alien to my Roman Catholic belief system and they redirected me towards something that ultimately proved to be very fruitful and life-transforming in a very positive way.
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