A Nondualistic Duality?

Originally Posted by swampgrl

Soups on, who's doing the dishes?

I wil. Seeing I provided much of the mess.

With love
Eelco

[slash112]

Hahahah

i lol'd

I say leave the mess! It's just water, it'll evaporate.

Originally Posted by sky123

Tough love given with a gentle hand is perfect I think it's about getting the balance right.

Not surprisingly. I'm not a fan of tough love.
Not giving my kids any. Spoiling them rotten. Life is hard enough as it is.

That doesn't mean anything goes. It just means I won't subject them to 'abuse' to teach them a lesson.
I dont believe crying is good for the lungs. Bleeding isn't good for the arteries either.

In my work where we try to guide the people whose development somehow went awry... I fight nail and tooth to keep tough love out of the picture.

Its foolish. Backwards and even though some endure it to great benefit. My experience is that those some learn in spite of tough love rather than because of it.

It's not one side of the balance. It's useless.

With Love
Eelco

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by slash112

Well said J!

sky, yeah true, there's always a balance to be had, isn't there

Agreed, Slash. Points (J's as well as yours) noted.

Speaking simplistically, there's 'daddy' (kind of) 'love' and 'mommy' (kind of) 'love' - which are best when 'balanced'.

Obviously, I think that there's a 'call' for more of the former (kind) in the present context/situation than you both and BT do.

I will most likely continue to 'stick to my guns' in the foregoing regard because of my perception of the gross! (YUCKY YIKES!) degree to which rampant, monstrous disregard for functional truth, including the 'need' for 'balance' in this regard (just witness what's happening all across the world stage for evidence of how far 'off' present 'tolerances' and 'attitudes' pertaining to 'love' of Life including the lives of all the 'children', not just of our own species!) is messing up our 'world'. Just look at all the 'spiritual' people who are just/primarily remaining silent and being being 'nice-nice' in terms of just presenting 'gentle' commentary this regard (and indulging in 'feeling' 'good' in the process, IMO!)

In my view, though others may of course 'see' it differently, what's going on in this forum is just a 'microcosm' of the gross unbalance/excess of 'mommy' (kind of) love going on all over the world, especially in 'spiritual' 'circles' I might add..

That said, I do wish you to know that your 'points' as to what you regard as being 'appropriate' 'balance' are really noted.

I hope you understand and will someday come to fully appreciate the 'wisdom' of my disagreement, which I do not express 'lightly', in said regard.

In specific terms, I think that just being 'nice' to catsquotl will just 'encourage' him to become an even more 'spoiled', self-indulging for personal 'perks', nay-nay-nay-nay-nay-sayer.

[sky]

Originally Posted by catsquotl

Not surprisingly. I'm not a fan of tough love.
Not giving my kids any. Spoiling them rotten. Life is hard enough as it is.

That doesn't mean anything goes. It just means I won't subject them to 'abuse' to teach them a lesson.
I dont believe crying is good for the lungs. Bleeding isn't good for the arteries either.

In my work where we try to guide the people whose development somehow went awry... I fight nail and tooth to keep tough love out of the picture.

Its foolish. Backwards and even though some endure it to great benefit. My experience is that those some learn in spite of tough love rather than because of it.

It's not one side of the balance. It's useless.

With Love
Eelco

Who mentioned ' abuse ' ????? that came from you Cats not me....

Post 181.

You didn't.
However. Tough love can often take on abusive traits.
Even if the intention is 'for the best'

With Love
Eelco

[swampgrl]

Just goes to show when watching water boil still demonstrates a level of involvement.

This has been going on for awhile now. I'd swear it feels like a sauna with all the steam exerted. Aren't you boys tired yet?

Becomes bored and mind wanders to the twirly paper hanging from the ceiling surrounded by flies.

I wonder what will happen when I touch it? What could possibly go wrong?

[sky]

Originally Posted by catsquotl

Post 181.

You didn't.
However. Tough love can often take on abusive traits.
Even if the intention is 'for the best'

With Love
Eelco

I have a Family twice the size of yours, we sometimes practise tough love with a gentle hand, traits of abuse NEVER happen.

Everytime I try to converse with you it is taken the wrong way for some reason, best not to try I suppose.

Originally Posted by swampgrl

. Aren't you boys tired yet?

Verry tired. Every time i want to let it go. He pushes a button and I can't help gettong aggitated.

Originally Posted by swampgrl

I wonder what will happen when I touch it? What could possibly go wrong?

Not much. Just make sure it doesn't get tangled in your hair.

With Love
Eelco

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by slash112

The violence and hate in this world is a maaaaassive portion of that masculine energy. We need to balance that out with a feminine touch.

There's a difference between 'violent' energy and the conscientious exercise or judiciousness and advocation of 'sane' (i.e.non-self-indulgent) discipline and restraint.

The implication - because my verbalizations in relation to him is what is being challenged and and debated here - is that my commentary in relation to catsquotle has been unconscionably 'violent'. All I can say to that is - watch out for your own 'shadow' projections, Bro.