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Old 11-07-2015, 01:56 AM
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The universe breathes? Are you the universe and do you have universal awareness...such as could you be a sun or a star....I don't think so, do you?

Are we not made of basically the same stuff as the stars? Has human life not been compared to individual mini universes?and what we are made of, does it not mimic the galaxies and universe in structure and movement? Did the universe not start as a single molecule as we all did? Universal awareness is exactly what it is called; universal;so does that not mean it is available to all universally? The flower of life symbolises the presence of divine creation outside of ourselves in the form of the universe (God ) and within us (divine spark )something akin to the tree and the seed. I don't think sarcasm and judgment are necessary but open minds are.
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Old 11-07-2015, 06:03 AM
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Are we not made of basically the same stuff as the stars? Has human life not been compared to individual mini universes?and what we are made of, does it not mimic the galaxies and universe in structure and movement? Did the universe not start as a single molecule as we all did? Universal awareness is exactly what it is called; universal;so does that not mean it is available to all universally? The flower of life symbolises the presence of divine creation outside of ourselves in the form of the universe (God ) and within us (divine spark )something akin to the tree and the seed. I don't think sarcasm and judgment are necessary but open minds are.
Comparing an organic self to a universe is not a situation that I would consider was rational.

How did the Universe begin as a molecule...who says this is real?

If a human being exists in a created state that by evaluation came after everything else...how could anyone know anything before it, unless a record exists that determines is can be read....such as spirit records-light/sound/image because science began from personal spiritual observations.

If you have molecules inside of your own self, wouldn't this be the only review you would give to everything else...when there is no evidence to state that this information is real elsewhere?

The human reality is that a human is trying to determine/rationalize states to which it own self does not exist in or with...if we came after. If we die who is then left to rationalize what already existed without our presence?
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Old 11-07-2015, 08:48 PM
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now I get it

OK, now I get it, I just clued in that I walked right into a battleground that I'd rather avoid for fear of further adding bricks to the wall that we have trying for so long to demolish between science and spirituality; or should I say science and religion. ..many opinions are formed by misinformation and fear that no proof of any kind might change these perspectives without a desire to learn or seek truth. Everyone has the free will to believe in whatever illusion he chooses, and it is all an illusion after all . only after we all follow our singular paths back to the same place will we truly realize the illusion of separation that we have lived in until such time. I hope that your chosen illusion works as well for you as mine does for me. If anyone wants to do a bit of research into the idea of the breathing of the universe simply Google it and there are pages &pages of information that is lent credence by science as well as spirituality going back thousands of years. Love &light to all.
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:32 PM
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now I get it

OK, now I get it, I just clued in that I walked right into a battleground that I'd rather avoid for fear of further adding bricks to the wall that we have trying for so long to demolish between science and spirituality; or should I say science and religion. ..many opinions are formed by misinformation and fear that no proof of any kind might change these perspectives without a desire to learn or seek truth. Everyone has the free will to believe in whatever illusion he chooses, and it is all an illusion after all . only after we all follow our singular paths back to the same place will we truly realize the illusion of separation that we have lived in until such time. I hope that your chosen illusion works as well for you as mine does for me. If anyone wants to do a bit of research into the idea of the breathing of the universe simply Google it and there are pages &pages of information that is lent credence by science as well as spirituality going back thousands of years. Love &light to all.
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Old 11-07-2015, 10:29 PM
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why?

OK there is one thing I do not understand and that is why my posts keep being sent in twos. Sorry about that everyone I do this from my phone and it sometimes has a mind of its own and for a smartphone it's not very smart. ..
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and for a smartphone it's not very smart. ..

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I wish I was as smart as a smart phone so I could understand all this.
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Some more excellent talks on the Electric Universe Theory, Mythological Cosmology, The Golden Age and the star Proto Saturn

Wal Thornhill: The Star ‘Proto-Saturn’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kff_ytg0-8w how Saturn was probably a brown dwarf and our primary Sun during the Golden Age etc

ASTROTAS Wallace Thornhill Lecture https://youtu.be/94zTskJ2ZoI (general EU theory)

Dwardu Cardona: Earth’s Primordial Stellar Host https://youtu.be/8Zf_17jcZPQ more on Proto Saturn

Immanuel Velikovsky - The Bonds Of The Past https://youtu.be/RdNaYFpjtQk Mythological Cosmology

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Might as well put the previous docu's up again, get em all in one place, cosy like

Worlds in Collision with Immanuel Velikovsky...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6wsxnCLmr0

The Thunderbolts of the Gods https://youtu.be/5AUA7XS0TvA

Symbols of an Alien Sky https://youtu.be/t7EAlTcZFwY

David Talbott...Remembering the End of the World http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...l_Documentary/
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