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26-10-2018, 08:14 PM
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Did Jesus
remember a past life when he stated....
" And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before this world existed. "
He seems to be speaking of having preexisted in heaven before coming into this world.
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26-10-2018, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
remember a past life when he stated....
" And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before this world existed. "
He seems to be speaking of having preexisted in heaven before coming into this world.
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rather preexisted in the something that came both before heaven and this world. |
27-10-2018, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
rather preexisted in the something that came both before heaven and this world.
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What do you think pre-existed before heaven and this world ? |
27-10-2018, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sky123
What do you think pre-existed before heaven and this world ?
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um - i dunno? Probably something though... |
27-10-2018, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
um - i dunno? Probably something though...
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Consciousness? |
27-10-2018, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Consciousness?
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Of course. Because that's all there is. We exist in the physical as conscious beings, and afterwards we return to the One Consciousness of Spirit. |
27-10-2018, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Baile
Of course. Because that's all there is. We exist in the physical as conscious beings, and afterwards we return to the One Consciousness of Spirit.
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And consciousness has no beginning or end....
I am trying to understand what Jesus ( or whoever wrote the verse) was pointing to. If heaven is a state of mind which I personally feel it is then the verse makes sense but I am a bit confused  Had Jesus reached Nirvana but not Parinirvana when he stated this? Help.... please. It's in my head but it's coming out scrambled, I can't make sense of my own thoughts lol. |
27-10-2018, 01:11 PM
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Why on earth are you two so determined to fit Jesus into a Hindu explanation? Can't you leave Christianity alone?
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27-10-2018, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
And consciousness has no beginning or end....
I am trying to understand what Jesus ( or whoever wrote the verse) was pointing to. If heaven is a state of mind which I personally feel it is then the verse makes sense but I am a bit confused Had Jesus reached Nirvana but not Parinirvana when he stated this? Help.... please. It's in my head but it's coming out scrambled, I can't make sense of my own thoughts lol. |
It's ok Baile, I have unscrambled my thoughts and now know what I'm thinking 
But your input is always welcome and appreciated... |
27-10-2018, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
Why on earth are you two so determined to fit Jesus into a Hindu explanation? Can't you leave Christianity alone?
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" And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before this world existed. "
Nothing to do with Hinduism as far as I know but we must remember that Jesus did teach both Esoteric and Exoterically.
You can add your personal interpretation rather than being negative  |
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