Did we all choose to be here?

[Alfor]

This thread reminds me that attitude makes perception.

I am not sure whether I came into this life with a needy grumpy attitude, but whatever, a slight initial tendency to be this way certainly snowballed into more pressing circumstances that eventually led me to look more closely at what was happening.

I saw that after a 'nasty' event I usually had a realisation that made that event worth while to me; it gave me new appreciation of what I had not previously appreciated. This has become so much so now that I am entertaining more and more the view that nothing really nasty could happen to me, as any nastiness would only be a reversion to an attitude that I no longer wish to entertain.

And I see an attitude as the view of or on circumstance. It may be seen as either the view on circumstance or the view of circumstance - and instructive to discern the difference.

[Baile]

Originally Posted by Alfor

This thread reminds me that attitude makes perception.

I saw that after a 'nasty' event I usually had a realisation that made that event worth while to me; it gave me new appreciation of what I had not previously appreciated.

Those are great insights. There was a point where I was able to turn my nasty attitude towards life into appreciation. It takes a real commitment to always see the best in things, which is difficult if one isn't happy in life. But I had the benefit of many years of spiritual study, learning what the masters have taught regarding the development of one's inner (spiritual) will. That's what helped me.

[Miss Hepburn]

Of interest:

Before you can live anything, in what you are calling physical manifestation—
you have to have conjured it in vibrational form.
You have to have imagined it before it can become a reality.

Everything that you are living here in this physical body,
you have imagined the essence of it before you are living it.

---Abraham-Hicks

[Dreamer67]

I firmly believe we chose to come here. Being a in human form is the fastest and best way for a soul to learn and grow. I endured a very abusive childhood and wouldn't change a single moment of it. What I've learned from that is priceless.

[Dargor]

Originally Posted by Dreamer67

I firmly believe we chose to come here. Being a in human form is the fastest and best way for a soul to learn and grow. I endured a very abusive childhood and wouldn't change a single moment of it. What I've learned from that is priceless.

That's just plain crazy. There are better ways to learn about the rotten nature of humanity and how dark life is than going through an abusive childhood. My teenage years were completely wasted and if I had the chance I would rather change all of it... Especially when I came to learn how meaningless and pointless life really is.

[Baile]

Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight

That's just plain crazy. There are better ways to learn about the rotten nature of humanity and how dark life is than going through an abusive childhood.

We generally don't see our life misery as "priceless" experience until we're years removed. And age also helps; my 20s were pretty horrible and I was as jaded about humanity back then as well. Post again in 2037 and see if you still feel the same.

[Dargor]

Originally Posted by Baile

We generally don't see our life misery as "priceless" experience until we're years removed. And age also helps; my 20s were pretty horrible and I was as jaded about humanity back then as well. Post again in 2037 and see if you still feel the same.

I have no idea what you have been through but it's good to know you're doing fine. But you don't know what I am dealing with neither. Our situations may be totally unrelated and incomparable to one another. Just so you know, I'm not having the stereotypical ''emo kid'' period if that is what you're thinking. It's way more complicated than that. Perhaps you may be right that it's still too early for me to abandon all hope, but because you got lucky in your later years (sounds like it imho) doesn't mean someone else will end up just as lucky. Life is a discriminating douchebag, some people are clad in success and others in failure.

[Internal Queries]

one may come to believe that pre-birth choices are made since not being in control, not having a choice, is repellent to the ego.

not only that ... but if one believes that people who face deprivation and horror choose to experience those things one doesn't have to empathize so much. it's far more comfortable to believe that victims aren't really victims. and if one believes in reincarnation one can assume that victims of terrible things deserve their "karma".

its typical of us humans to construct self serving belief systems.

[Rozie]

No.

I said "no"..."I won't do it"...they talked me into it and made it sound like disneyland and it's not.

We do get to participate in the plan which is always being rewritten and we do get consulted in private. This goes on in our subconscious. We are not aware consciously but we do get to agree or agree. Those are about the only 2 choices.

[EgoIsSatan]

It appears that at least some of us are brutally forced to be here