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Old 24-04-2018, 02:48 AM
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Feeling like dying as a result of awakening

Is it normal to feel like its okay to die after having an awakening? I thought it was supposed to be happy and blissful after an awakening? Or does it take time for the awakening to get to the point where you feel blissful and happy?
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Old 24-04-2018, 07:19 AM
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Others are going to answer better than me. With awakening (as I understand it) Death from this material life takes on a different meaning. It may take a while to sink in. You are awakening to being a self with a soul that may not agree with the ways of the mundane world. Finding your real self will take time, maybe your lifetime.

You won't feel blissful and happy instantly on awakening, although you should be happy to have awoken, whatever signs there've been. You'll gradually rise above the systems of the mundane world; learn to navigate your way through in your terms, like: know it's there, learn how it influences you and you, it. Your intuition will sharpen - lots of things.

You're just setting out on your journey and it's possible that either you're bewildered by something you've discovered, perhaps by all the possibilities you face; or you're reflecting on circumstances that have brought a sense of hopelessness. Is there a chance you could share a little more of your story?

It truly needs you to muster strength now, to be patient; to look out for good things in every day, small and large, to give thanks for them, give thanks to the Creator (no matter who or what you believe they are) for putting you there to absorb the good. Because, death will raise itself as a question in good time. You'll have formulated beliefs about it. To the lesser spiritual person it's a fear and that's to do with survival - about relinquishing their treasured possessions! As a spiritual person you start to see it as a transformation, an inevitability. What you believe happens thereafter depends on how your beliefs develop.

Can I report my own views here? As a gnostic, my earthly death will mean returning to the world of Spirit from where I came. I've acclimatised to the idea that it could happen any time even if I think I'm a bit young; and believe I still have work to do here. If I'm afraid it's of one thing only; that it may be prolonged and painful. So part of my spiritual drive is to maintain this body in as best health I can. It's the vehicle my spirit drives around in on mundane Earth. However, when I very first set out - thanks to this forum it seems my awakening probably started when I was about 7, when I started rebelling in my heart against my parents, leading to nigh suicidal thoughts as I reached puberty. Thankfully, providence pulled me out (of my parental home) in time!

So..... I'd say there's no normal about awakening. It has affected us all differently. To some it comes with shocks - sounds like your situation, and needs time to let things settle down. Happiness and bliss need you to be at peace in yourself which may take time. It's easier for those who can withdraw from the world of work and daily hassles, but it is possible for those who have to engage with that material world to survive - just takes a little more effort.

Take heart and know you're at the start of a remarkable journey.

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Old 24-04-2018, 11:02 AM
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If I'm to be honest I'm not really sure what an awakening is or what it is or isn't supposed to be but the word awake is the opposite of asleep so that says to me that we are simply becoming aware of something we were not aware of before. I suspect that for some the goal is to begin to feel their true essence and as such they think that all people who awaken should feel that which is possibly true at some point but maybe for some of us there are a few other layers to get through first before reaching that place. I know for me, I was using spirituality as a way to try and escape my dark feelings. It wasn't until I became open with a long standing desire to escape life that I'm finally starting to feel better so it may be that you first need to self explore why you feel bad first before you can find that bliss and happiness. In the end if all we are trying to do is feel good then we will always be vulnerable to feeling bad if we haven't rooted out and shifted the thoughts and beliefs that feed our negative feelings. It's a process that takes time so just ask yourself why you are feeling what you are feeling and see where it takes you. I also like what Lorelyn said.
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Old 24-04-2018, 05:24 PM
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Others are going to answer better than me. With awakening (as I understand it) Death from this material life takes on a different meaning. It may take a while to sink in. You are awakening to being a self with a soul that may not agree with the ways of the mundane world. Finding your real self will take time, maybe your lifetime.

You won't feel blissful and happy instantly on awakening, although you should be happy to have awoken, whatever signs there've been. You'll gradually rise above the systems of the mundane world; learn to navigate your way through in your terms, like: know it's there, learn how it influences you and you, it. Your intuition will sharpen - lots of things.

You're just setting out on your journey and it's possible that either you're bewildered by something you've discovered, perhaps by all the possibilities you face; or you're reflecting on circumstances that have brought a sense of hopelessness. Is there a chance you could share a little more of your story?

It truly needs you to muster strength now, to be patient; to look out for good things in every day, small and large, to give thanks for them, give thanks to the Creator (no matter who or what you believe they are) for putting you there to absorb the good. Because, death will raise itself as a question in good time. You'll have formulated beliefs about it. To the lesser spiritual person it's a fear and that's to do with survival - about relinquishing their treasured possessions! As a spiritual person you start to see it as a transformation, an inevitability. What you believe happens thereafter depends on how your beliefs develop.

Can I report my own views here? As a gnostic, my earthly death will mean returning to the world of Spirit from where I came. I've acclimatised to the idea that it could happen any time even if I think I'm a bit young; and believe I still have work to do here. If I'm afraid it's of one thing only; that it may be prolonged and painful. So part of my spiritual drive is to maintain this body in as best health I can. It's the vehicle my spirit drives around in on mundane Earth. However, when I very first set out - thanks to this forum it seems my awakening probably started when I was about 7, when I started rebelling in my heart against my parents, leading to nigh suicidal thoughts as I reached puberty. Thankfully, providence pulled me out (of my parental home) in time!

So..... I'd say there's no normal about awakening. It has affected us all differently. To some it comes with shocks - sounds like your situation, and needs time to let things settle down. Happiness and bliss need you to be at peace in yourself which may take time. It's easier for those who can withdraw from the world of work and daily hassles, but it is possible for those who have to engage with that material world to survive - just takes a little more effort.

Take heart and know you're at the start of a remarkable journey.


Basically I feel bored. very bored right now. hence wanting to die. I can't seem to do the things I used to be able to do so its causing me to feel a lot of boredom.
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Old 10-06-2018, 07:07 PM
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Basically I feel bored. very bored right now. hence wanting to die. I can't seem to do the things I used to be able to do so its causing me to feel a lot of boredom.

I think whatever realization that brought you to that awakening of lifes mundaneness, you need to find your next awakening to the realization to have fun, be careless, be reckless, have new thrills, do whatever gets your freak on
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:09 AM
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I think whatever realization that brought you to that awakening of lifes mundaneness, you need to find your next awakening to the realization to have fun, be careless, be reckless, have new thrills, do whatever gets your freak on

lol, I'm somewhat past this phase, but thanks
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:08 PM
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lol, I'm somewhat past this phase, but thanks
If you are awakened, what are you awakened to? I'm guessing that if you're past this phase (it's not a phase by the way) then you're well on your way? I'm not saying you aren't because I have no idea where you are other than you saying you are past this phase, but the important thing is the answer to the question and not the statement.

Children rush around and spend so much of their childhood trying to grow up so they can drive, they can get drunk and do whatever else they want to. The grass is always greener. Too much destination, not enough Journey by a long shot. I'm over 60 years old and I often go play with the kids in the puddles, because people are taught to respect their elders and seeing me splashing around takes the heat off the kids. I have a Child Inside that I don't want to grow up because children have a wisdom all of their own that adults can never find. Children create their own realities to suit them, and they are very liberated in their outlook in Life. Adult, Spiritually aware people talk a lot about realities but only really follow doctrines and dogmas, and seldom do they think about the reality they're creating.

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Old 06-07-2018, 04:48 AM
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Others are going to answer better than me. With awakening (as I understand it) Death from this material life takes on a different meaning. It may take a while to sink in. You are awakening to being a self with a soul that may not agree with the ways of the mundane world. Finding your real self will take time, maybe your lifetime.

You won't feel blissful and happy instantly on awakening, although you should be happy to have awoken, whatever signs there've been. You'll gradually rise above the systems of the mundane world; learn to navigate your way through in your terms, like: know it's there, learn how it influences you and you, it. Your intuition will sharpen - lots of things.

You're just setting out on your journey and it's possible that either you're bewildered by something you've discovered, perhaps by all the possibilities you face; or you're reflecting on circumstances that have brought a sense of hopelessness. Is there a chance you could share a little more of your story?

It truly needs you to muster strength now, to be patient; to look out for good things in every day, small and large, to give thanks for them, give thanks to the Creator (no matter who or what you believe they are) for putting you there to absorb the good. Because, death will raise itself as a question in good time. You'll have formulated beliefs about it. To the lesser spiritual person it's a fear and that's to do with survival - about relinquishing their treasured possessions! As a spiritual person you start to see it as a transformation, an inevitability. What you believe happens thereafter depends on how your beliefs develop.

Can I report my own views here? As a gnostic, my earthly death will mean returning to the world of Spirit from where I came. I've acclimatised to the idea that it could happen any time even if I think I'm a bit young; and believe I still have work to do here. If I'm afraid it's of one thing only; that it may be prolonged and painful. So part of my spiritual drive is to maintain this body in as best health I can. It's the vehicle my spirit drives around in on mundane Earth. However, when I very first set out - thanks to this forum it seems my awakening probably started when I was about 7, when I started rebelling in my heart against my parents, leading to nigh suicidal thoughts as I reached puberty. Thankfully, providence pulled me out (of my parental home) in time!

So..... I'd say there's no normal about awakening. It has affected us all differently. To some it comes with shocks - sounds like your situation, and needs time to let things settle down. Happiness and bliss need you to be at peace in yourself which may take time. It's easier for those who can withdraw from the world of work and daily hassles, but it is possible for those who have to engage with that material world to survive - just takes a little more effort.

Take heart and know you're at the start of a remarkable journey.


I went through this entire thread again and I'm at a different place now. What you described is so beautiful and makes much more sense now from this standpoint. Will it really take me a lifetime to find my thing?
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Old 24-04-2018, 11:55 AM
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Is it normal to feel like its okay to die after having an awakening? I thought it was supposed to be happy and blissful after an awakening? Or does it take time for the awakening to get to the point where you feel blissful and happy?
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I think after my bigger awakening process where I entered a "perceived" feeling of "I am going to die' actually supported me to get ok with death and dying. I noticed for years afterwards, each opening I had, I tended to enter into a death space of awareness only because it was a pivotal point of the process. I was getting very ok with death itself. So perhaps you have found something within yourself, where your now ok with death since you have awakened. When you go through a bigger letting go process in periods of deeper awakening, there can arise a feeling of being ok with the point of death through that process.

When you say your ok to die, what feelings activate this in you?
Do you mean its a peaceful feeling of your ok with it, or more its a burden in you?
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Old 24-04-2018, 05:22 PM
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I think after my bigger awakening process where I entered a "perceived" feeling of "I am going to die' actually supported me to get ok with death and dying. I noticed for years afterwards, each opening I had, I tended to enter into a death space of awareness only because it was a pivotal point of the process. I was getting very ok with death itself. So perhaps you have found something within yourself, where your now ok with death since you have awakened. When you go through a bigger letting go process in periods of deeper awakening, there can arise a feeling of being ok with the point of death through that process.

When you say your ok to die, what feelings activate this in you?
Do you mean its a peaceful feeling of your ok with it, or more its a burden in you?

Its a mixture of feelings. The feeling like its okay to die is a peaceful one as I feel I have experienced everything I want to experience and there's nothing else left to experience. But its also burdensome in a way because I want to die a non painful death and with those youre not sure if its actually going to happen so I don't do it because I don't want psychiatrists on my case. Its also burdensome because right now I am not enjoying myself very much hence the feelings of wanting to die.
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