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Old 30-01-2006, 08:14 PM
Space_Man
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It's almost as if the pain is too much to bear inside any longer, that the only way to quell the feelings of desperation is too slight the body... The prison of the soul... :?:
I want to ask more about this, but I want to make sure I
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Old 31-01-2006, 08:24 PM
jadedmelody
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I used to self-harm, but i stopped over a year ago... only to develop an eating disorder. :roll:
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Old 31-01-2006, 09:07 PM
Space_Man
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... only to develop an eating disorder.
See also, here. There seem to be many links between the two (eating disorders and SI).
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Old 22-02-2006, 09:10 AM
Enlightener
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Ancestral said: "Since I have to deal with other people's emotions on top of my own I would have to strongly disagree with you Enlightener. I cannot train mind to not feel because I am for one empathic which makes me not normal to begin with. Feeling emotions is a part of nature that helps us to more then a empty shell. I enjoy feeling every emotion that is mine alone others not so much. But the pain I have felt in my lifetime has made a better person and I would not for one want to not feel anything at all. I hope that I did not offend you in anyway Enlightener because that was not my intention."

First, I don't think you could offend me that easily by simply asking a question. And, secondly, I did not say that you should train your mind to -not- feel, I said that you can train your mind to not endure emotional pain. It is all about your beleifs, they affect your behaviours and so on to your actions.

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Old 22-02-2006, 11:40 AM
silver swan
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I hope you do not mind me joining in with this thread. Its just that what you were saying struck a chord with me Poppies. I myself was not abused as a child, however my mother has obsessive compulsive disorder combined with body dismophic disorder. When I was growing up she struggled enormously and this put a tremendous strain on my parents marriage. They did not find it easy to express emotions to myself and my sister, therefore no one ever explained to us what was going on. There was a terrible atmosphere in the house and I too was constanly studying my parents mood. Like yourself I still do it now unconsiously. I pick up constantly on other peoples moods and find their mood has a direct impact on my own. I am interested in the debate as to whether identifying other peoples moods is as a result
of years of studying others, and is therefore a learned behaviour, or whether the stress opens up a sixth sense on the subject.
I agree with Ancestral that when you meet someone who has been through similar experiences to yourself , you just instinctively "know" . What does anyone think ? I do however believe that people can have a highly tuned sixth sense without ever having gone though extreme stress or child abuse.
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Old 22-02-2006, 04:24 PM
Poppies
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Hi Silver Swan!
You're welcome to join in this thread!!!
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.....There was a terrible atmosphere in the house and I too was constanly studying my parents mood. Like yourself I still do it now unconsiously. I pick up constantly on other peoples moods and find their mood has a direct impact on my own. I am interested in the debate as to whether identifying other peoples moods is as a result of years of studying others, and is therefore a learned behaviour, or whether the stress opens up a sixth sense on the subject.
I must admit that I always assumed that it was a sort of learned behaviour... constantly watching and attempting to divert any sense of a 'bad mood'....

Having said that... my twin sister and I did develop a sort of sixth sense... the door to our house was some distance from the kitchen, but when we came in from college we could feel the mood from the kitchen which is where Mum and Dad always were at that time of day... we could see neither of them... and couldn't hear any conversation, but as we walked into the house we would look at each other and go if there was a bad atmosphere or breathe a sigh of relief if it was a good one - it never occurred to us to question this 'ability' until we were older.... I know it's easy to say, but we had absolutely no physical indication of what the mood was with Mum and Dad... but we were both able to 'feel' it somehow.... I don't know, they say that animals can 'feel' atmospheres don't they....
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I agree with Ancestral that when you meet someone who has been through similar experiences to yourself , you just instinctively "know" . What does anyone think ? I do however believe that people can have a highly tuned sixth sense without ever having gone though extreme stress or child abuse.
I honestly don't know what I think about "sixth sense" - I'm open-minded, but I've not really thought about it that much... but I don't think that it has to be only as a result of extreme stress or child abuse....

I will say that I'm not aware of 'knowing' when someone else has been through similar experiences to me though.... Would body language come into it at all... confident people will look someone in the eye.... whereas someone with a poor self-image might avoid eye-contact..........

My husband knows when I'm getting down because, however hard I try to be 'normal'... I don't look him in the eye apparently.....

Do more sensitive people pick up on the signals that others give out?

I'm not pooh-poohing the idea of sixth sense and 'knowing'.... I'd just assumed a more sort of 'practical' interpretation I guess....
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Old 26-02-2006, 08:10 AM
silver swan
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Hi Poppies.
The Feelings You And Your Sister Experienced When Picking Up On The Atmosphere, Were Picked Up By Your Sixth Sense. It Sounds To Me As If You Have A Strong Natural Ability.

As For The Question Of Body Language. Well I Understand What You Are Saying About Avoiding Eye Contact. It Is True That Confident People Give Better Eye Contact. However, It Is Something More Than This , That Alerts You About Someone Who Has Been Through Similar Experiences. I Believe That There Are Many Reasons Why An Individual May Lack Confidence. For Example, They May Have A Poor Self Image For A Vast Variety Of Reasons.
It Is A Knowing That I Find Difficult To Explain. x

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Old 20-03-2006, 05:52 PM
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I am a self-harmer as well, though I'm not as frequent. Since I was 11, I have had bouts of anger that drive me to hit myself in the head, and I have also cut myself or stabbed with a push pin a few times. I am a survivor of child abuse, I also have eating problems and problems with obsessions... for too long I have spent my life polarized, sorting out the negative and the positive and what to do with it. Only now am I seeking the balance through my spirituality. I still do catch myself when I'm throwing a hitting fit or screaming or physically attacking inanimate objects, though I understand it as a flaw and don't try to stop it all together, but I believe with acceptance and understanding of why I do the things I do, they slowly go away or decrease in frequency.
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