Nasty voice disrupts my meditation

[ThatMan]

Last night, I tried something new, I started to say some words with my whole being again and again while I was meditating: I and God are one!

The more I was saying this, the more power I felt, when suddenly, I heard a very angry and nasty voice saying to me: Liar, stop saying those words! Then I see in my mind's eye many muddy rivers, so so many muddy rivers, these were small rivers but they were all muddy and they were all flowing very rapidly. To me this represents all my obstacles that I faced and face in my day to day life.

I kept saying those words again and again and now I added even more similar expressions: I am in God and God is in me, I and God are everywhere, I am one with God, Christ is in me, God is here, God is everywhere. I was seeing in my mind's eye how God is really everywhere and in all things.

Suddenly, I see a vision in my mind's eye. I was shown how my body was moving uppwards, towards the sky, when a giant snake appeared and caught me with its tail, this snake said: Get down, you worm!; again, same angry and nasty voice, it caught me and it stopped me from floating towards the sky. This giant snake was spitting fire, it was so mad because of what I was saying.

This voice did not like me saying those words, it made it mad and furious. It felt so nasty, dark and very angry. IAfter some time, I heard a very loud noise in my mind and I decided to stop.

There were even more messages but I forgot them, I kept saying my words and that voice kept coming back being very angry of what I was saying.

[one-light]

Wow you are learning so much thatman - watch with the anger stuff you are experiencing, it'll lower your vibration, but the words you say with reference to God will raise your vibes immensely - seem like something dark doesn't like what your doing, stay close with your spiritual support with this journey - 'ask them' what was that all about, then make sure you're 'tuning in' for answers and guidance from 'your team'...

Do you get into personal conversation with your Higher Self your best friend? and Guides, separate conversation, what did you think of that then? and Angels, again sometimes separate conversations - with me separate conversations I have, or sometimes all at once, I will call them all by the name/title 'my Angels' my spiritual support team/family are all my Angels - as you have, 'your' Angels...

Can you remember over a year ago on the Metatron thread on this very page, when I told the world how Jesus spent his final physical days here on Earth, not on a cross but on a rope 'as in my vision in church' sent by the Holy Spirit - and you replied you had seen him die on a cross, I thought then somethings giving 'you' wrong information... that something is showing its around you and its not pleased, stay strong my friend - someone on here must have the ability to see if there is and what, and how to get rid, someone must be able to help...

[ThatMan]

Originally Posted by one-light

Wow you are learning so much thatman - watch with the anger stuff you are experiencing, it'll lower your vibration, but the words you say with reference to God will raise your vibes immensely - seem like something dark doesn't like what your doing, stay close with your spiritual support with this journey - 'ask them' what was that all about, then make sure you're 'tuning in' for answers and guidance from 'your team'...

Do you get into personal conversation with your Higher Self your best friend? and Guides, separate conversation, what did you think of that then? and Angels, again sometimes separate conversations - with me separate conversations I have, or sometimes all at once, I will call them all by the name/title 'my Angels' my spiritual support team/family are all my Angels - as you have, 'your' Angels...

Can you remember over a year ago on the Metatron thread on this very page, when I told the world how Jesus spent his final physical days here on Earth, not on a cross but on a rope 'as in my vision in church' sent by the Holy Spirit - and you replied you had seen him die on a cross, I thought then somethings giving 'you' wrong information... that something is showing its around you and its not pleased, stay strong my friend - someone on here must have the ability to see if there is and what, and how to get rid, someone must be able to help...

Maybe this voice is my lower self.

I do ask for help and guidance from within but things are not always very clear. I ask questions and sometimes I receive answers, which may or not make sense.

I have little to no experience when it comes to the interpretation of my experiences, this is why I come here, some people may see more than what I see. I do remember that strong out of body experience, to me it seemed to be very real and it was following the biblical account, in my vision, this man that I identify with Christ was really on a stony hill.

Thank you for your answer!

[one-light]

We see what others have to say... That vision was sent to you about a week after I wrote on here about Jesus just to confuse the matter, then Acknaton confirmed it was the Holy Spirit sending the vision to my church - I know what I saw in church in 2016 - 5/10 seconds vision, should have opened my eyes immediately, but someone 'spirit' was talking to me, keeping me calm and giving me instructions - 'look at his upright arms again' not in hearing 'knowing'...

You are going to learn a lot to help others one day thatman... Positive thoughts now when retiring to bed, no fear, happy thoughts - visualise your support there with you, and all is calm, things to learn, and 'rest' - and when things happen, as they do a lot for you - then you will deal with it as you always do, and 'learn' as you are doing every day... send positive vibes to him everyone, he is doing a good job... I have said a prayer to the Holy Spirit to guide and protect you...

My thought on this is that when you meditate you glow and entities, energies find you. And some of those can see what you see or just simply walk in, walk in your dream state, your meditation state. I have heard voices too just before I come about, it is as if they know or guess your biggest fear or something, where it will hurt the most. For me, apparently, it is a child in need so I hear it scream of anger and fright at the same time. It has felt so real I jump up and think in my head it is a real child in the home or a child just outside, but it has never been real. This is just right before, before I come too in this reality. I don't hear voices other wise.

One time I tried to make someone go to the other side and this hostile energy, not the one I was trying to help, but someone else just kept contradiction me all the time and I could feel it's energy getting stronger, it was from the start telepathic but it was as if it grew into a real voice. When it is at its strongest it went away. This has happened before. Just when I think ok this is really tough, it just vanishes. I have just kept what I was doing and maybe it gave up?

So I guess my advice is just keep doing what you are doing and ignore this other voice, keep doing it a 100 time if you have to. I was waiting or expecting the negative energy to have some more tricks in its pocket but it didn't. It just kept doing what it was doing/saying/feeling - and then gone.

[one-light]

asearcher you have been through so much on your journey so far and learned so much - there's strength and wisdom in your words... thatman no thinking about lower self or anything like that - stay positive, work on healthy eating get vibes up and be strong on your travels...

[ThatMan]

Originally Posted by asearcher

My thought on this is that when you meditate you glow and entities, energies find you. And some of those can see what you see or just simply walk in, walk in your dream state, your meditation state. I have heard voices too just before I come about, it is as if they know or guess your biggest fear or something, where it will hurt the most. For me, apparently, it is a child in need so I hear it scream of anger and fright at the same time. It has felt so real I jump up and think in my head it is a real child in the home or a child just outside, but it has never been real. This is just right before, before I come too in this reality. I don't hear voices other wise.

One time I tried to make someone go to the other side and this hostile energy, not the one I was trying to help, but someone else just kept contradiction me all the time and I could feel it's energy getting stronger, it was from the start telepathic but it was as if it grew into a real voice. When it is at its strongest it went away. This has happened before. Just when I think ok this is really tough, it just vanishes. I have just kept what I was doing and maybe it gave up?

So I guess my advice is just keep doing what you are doing and ignore this other voice, keep doing it a 100 time if you have to. I was waiting or expecting the negative energy to have some more tricks in its pocket but it didn't. It just kept doing what it was doing/saying/feeling - and then gone.

Something tells me this is what is happening, recently, when I meditate, I feel something rising from within myself and it envelops my body, it's like an subtle body. I feel like really I am at a new stage, something greater than everything I ever experienced before, not that I seek the experiences, frankly, I am tried of them, I just want peace for me and for all people.

I think our not so nice experiences have something to do with our traumas, there are meditators who experience nothing negative and there are those of us who do experience negative things.

It's nice that you are for helping those who are stuck on this plane of existence, I met some too.

I keep meditating but not as I used to.

[one-light]

Yes thatman ease off on the meditating, ive cut mine right down - a lot of my guidance comes in the early hours...

[ThatMan]

Originally Posted by one-light

We see what others have to say... That vision was sent to you about a week after I wrote on here about Jesus just to confuse the matter, then Acknaton confirmed it was the Holy Spirit sending the vision to my church - I know what I saw in church in 2016 - 5/10 seconds vision, should have opened my eyes immediately, but someone 'spirit' was talking to me, keeping me calm and giving me instructions - 'look at his upright arms again' not in hearing 'knowing'...

You are going to learn a lot to help others one day thatman... Positive thoughts now when retiring to bed, no fear, happy thoughts - visualise your support there with you, and all is calm, things to learn, and 'rest' - and when things happen, as they do a lot for you - then you will deal with it as you always do, and 'learn' as you are doing every day... send positive vibes to him everyone, he is doing a good job... I have said a prayer to the Holy Spirit to guide and protect you...

I see, interesting.

It's hard when you suffer from depression as I do but I try my best.

Thank you!

[one-light]

I help out on other forums when depression is rife - I think all you've had to deal with and learn, is more than most people will have to deal with in ten lifetimes - so compliment yourself for getting to this moment 'now' - do it, deep breath and tap your hand/fist onto your chest and say yes I did it - because if you had gone to see a specialist re 'hearing seeing things' they would have you on heavy drugs, which only masks the problem...

To help remove the depression, you need to start living in the 'moment' appreciate little things, breathe - soak up good thoughts... and when resting/meditating, none of this getting it right so you can see and witness more, deal with the here now - are you on any meds at all right now for depression? we need to get your mind/body strong ready for more adventures and learning - a lot of asearchers message made a lot of sense, no fear, be strong, and deal with it as you are doing so well at the moment - some time in nature and research self healing energy and positive thoughts, power in good thoughts...