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Old 08-11-2013, 08:26 AM
CharleneMarie2712
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Recently I watched a documentary called The Secret: The Law of Attraction. The theory is that we create our own universe and if you put your energy into something and beleive it, that the universe will give it to you. I personally beleive in this theory in a more spiritual way, but if you watch the documentary you can definetly put it into your own perspective. If you want change act on it, follow your intuition, and even if it may not be as big of an impact as you had wished do not hold that burdon on your shoulders, there is alwaysw peoples lives you can touch in an amazing way. Follow the beat of your own drum and have faith that someone was moved<3
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:09 PM
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If one applies the law of attraction to this topic (which I sort of feel may be the law of observation). . .
Are we not just consciously observing more of the positive things that we desire?
Or (in your belief). . . does the mere act of observation cause more of
those same things to occur?
Often times when I try to apply manifestation into my life all that I am really doing is just taking more notice of the things I am looking for. . . so they always existed.
Do you believe that if more of us were to consciously make these observations that we as a collective would promote more change?

Or is all this simply wishful thinking and out true purpose is to live through these experiences, observe them and make peace with it all?

Or (lol) a bit from column A and a bit from column B

Maybe it is more a matter of personal choice instead?
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Old 10-11-2013, 06:05 PM
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It's like the survival instinct and the need to be material has reached saturation point... it can no longer offer us, as a species, the things we thought we needed so badly when we so heartily took up it's reins. How big must a TV be before we realise it's the story that counts?

I was introduced to such ideas when I was very young as my father was a socialist who believed in evolution not revolution and having ideas such as this given to me at 14-15 pretty much set me on a course of questioning the merits of a materialist society given, of course, that it was also the early 70's and hippies were all over the place.

This internet though has alot to answer for as it's been our first real ability to share and see the results of that sharing alike we are doing right here. Long gone is the need to publish on paper or to advertise and get a room full of people in one place.

And even science, the great father of economic progress, is losing it's esteemed footing as the experimental ideal is growing into something new and impossible to foretell as information is shared all over the known world. Case in point is certain types of electrical engines which seem to need no motive force but are driven by their own back emf and this is being done by a world of enthusiasts who know almost nothing of the theoretical basis and are going blindly with intuition... it's amazing. There is a new playfulness with all the concepts that were once only within the grasp of the learner-ed... it is indeed a new world.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:16 AM
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If one applies the law of attraction to this topic (which I sort of feel may be the law of observation). . .
Are we not just consciously observing more of the positive things that we desire?
Or (in your belief). . . does the mere act of observation cause more of
those same things to occur?
Often times when I try to apply manifestation into my life all that I am really doing is just taking more notice of the things I am looking for. . . so they always existed.
Do you believe that if more of us were to consciously make these observations that we as a collective would promote more change?

Or is all this simply wishful thinking and out true purpose is to live through these experiences, observe them and make peace with it all?

Or (lol) a bit from column A and a bit from column B

Maybe it is more a matter of personal choice instead?



I do beleive that if more people applied more positive energy to the things that mattered it could make a change. But I do not think we are all ready for that, all people would need to be on the same page to make such changes. I do think it is important to make peace with most things, but if morally we need change then 'The Law of Attraction' would be beneficial to do so.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:05 PM
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I do sometimes wonder if this is all a 'teenage idealistic soul' desire to be a part of a revolution of change. Like everything else spiritual does it eventually need to be transcended? Do I instead just allow for change to flow or do i keep trying to take action?

My spirit is so hungry (and has been since i was born)for social/political/spiritual change.
As a kid I always seemed to naturally reject all the inequality in our world.

Even though i was surrounded by biggots, rascists sexists ect I never saw differences of gender, race, sexuality, I saw people as themselves and I always knew (not believed but knew) that we all had tremendous power and ability and that we are all equals. As a teenager I insticntivly understood those who were misunderstood and I was always happier being around those sorts of people.
From an early age I saw great need in this world for a better, fairer, more nurturing and compassionate system and as I have become an adult my desire for change has grown stronger.

I really hope for a massive shift, I really hope that something will give, but I am also hesitant. . . People have tried countless times to create change. . .
I do not believe in the god of religions, I do not believe that a saviour has to come down and save us. . . I believe that we are responsible for our evolution and that we are responsible for the experiences we create. . .

Is this hope for a new more compassionate system just something else I/we need to spiritually transcend in order for anything change?

Do I need to accept that the change may never come?

Do I dare to hope that it will?

I watched a documentary the other night about a tribe in Africa who have always viewed the Lion down through the generations as a creature to fight and defeat. They killed many lions over many generations. This particular tribe not that long ago had a young seventeen year old tribesman, whos turn it was to kill his first lion as a sign of his step into manhood. He did and this particular lion was pregnant. He felt guilty at this loss and so consequently from those feelings awakened, he became a lion protector, taking it in his own hands to ensure that this would never happen again by his tribesman. The lions now are protected because of the shift in this mans feelings and the nature of the loss at his own hands. He spends his days using a tracking device to pick up on signals of where the lions are, and then warns the tribesmen and their flock of their presence.

Change can be simple and swift, long and drawn out. How we approach it from the individual space is simply by opening to create it in our own space, our own small world or larger world. When its time to open up to the greater awareness of all life as one, it occurs..individually and collectively at times, but obviously not all at once. The nature of learning, often requires we take in both sides of life to feel the deeper connection to all life as one. This learning is about compassion, feeling it within, to acknowledge it outside of us for all.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:21 PM
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I watched a documentary the other night about a tribe in Africa who have always viewed the Lion down through the generations as a creature to fight and defeat. They killed many lions over many generations. This particular tribe not that long ago had a young seventeen year old tribesman, whos turn it was to kill his first lion as a sign of his step into manhood. He did and this particular lion was pregnant. He felt guilty at this loss and so consequently from those feelings awakened, he became a lion protector, taking it in his own hands to ensure that this would never happen again by his tribesman. The lions now are protected because of the shift in this mans feelings and the nature of the loss at his own hands. He spends his days using a tracking device to pick up on signals of where the lions are, and then warns the tribesmen and their flock of their presence.

Change can be simple and swift, long and drawn out. How we approach it from the individual space is simply by opening to create it in our own space, our own small world or larger world. When its time to open up to the greater awareness of all life as one, it occurs..individually and collectively at times, but obviously not all at once. The nature of learning, often requires we take in both sides of life to feel the deeper connection to all life as one. This learning is about compassion, feeling it within, to acknowledge it outside of us for all.

Hey I was watching that documentary too!
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:19 AM
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I like the bhagavad Gita. To me the message in that is that we should do our duty in the world but not be attached to it.

So we should do what we think is right and act towards positive social change, in all our interactions. But all the time God is all around us and is perfect, so don't get caught up in the results. Don't feel despondent that we are not there yet. Our awakening is inside us but we shouldn't neglect our external duties.
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