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08-08-2011, 07:26 PM
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Master
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Entering Heaven alive
Do you think it is possible for the normal humanbeing to enter Heaven alive just like Jesus did after his resurrection?
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08-08-2011, 08:41 PM
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Only in soul form may one enter the 8th deminsion, or heaven. Jesus did not enter the spirit world with his physical body. Matter does not exist in the spiritual world. It's a Collective Consciousness with All That Is. The One.
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09-08-2011, 01:24 AM
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Master
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Serrao... It's our spirit that is always alive, in the physical body and out of it after death... just like Jesus.
You might be interested to read the many Near Death Experiences that are around now. One good resource is http://nderf.org
Xan
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The Truth is found there and nowhere else.-Sananda
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09-08-2011, 02:45 PM
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Master
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If you read the Bible you will find that Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven without experiencing death. The Bible also tells us that a time is coming when all those who have put their faith in Jesus Christ will be taken out of this world and taken to heaven. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
This event will include the resurrection of believers who have died, but it will also include those who are living.
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10-08-2011, 05:15 AM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theophilus
The Bible also tells us that a time is coming when all those who have put their faith in Jesus Christ will be taken out of this world and taken to heaven.
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I've heard about this before, so I wondered if the ascension to Heaven can be done on one's own effort. Is it possible to enter Heaven without the help from Jesus?
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10-08-2011, 05:20 AM
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Heaven or hell is physically nonexistent and it is a state of mind. There is no geographical territory and heaven is the realization of yourself and connecting
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10-08-2011, 07:17 AM
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Yep
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Originally Posted by manu
Heaven or hell is physically nonexistent and it is a state of mind. There is no geographical territory and heaven is the realization of yourself and connecting
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Spot On.......
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10-08-2011, 07:15 AM
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Ascension Is Our Eternal Growth Process
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Originally Posted by Serrao
I've heard about this before, so I wondered if the ascension to Heaven can be done on one's own effort. Is it possible to enter Heaven without the help from Jesus?
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This can depend on if one believes in heaven/hell & whether after our brief sojourn here that we are parked on one of these 2 places for eternity.
Ascension isn’t granted to us just by the process of dying, but in our learning & experiencing as part of our spiritual/energetic growth process. Awakening is when we begin to actively seek more information. Ascension is when we reunite w/ the Universe in 12D (1-12D). It is often discussed as being when we move into full 5D awareness, but this is actually the START of ascension.
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10-08-2011, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mattie
T Ascension is when we reunite w/ the Universe
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This is exactly what believe in.We connect to our source.
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10-08-2011, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Serrao
I've heard about this before, so I wondered if the ascension to Heaven can be done on one's own effort. Is it possible to enter Heaven without the help from Jesus?
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No. In order to enter heaven either before or after we die physically we must have our sins forgiven and that can only be done through Jesus.
http://www.backtothebible.org/Indexes/index.php?option=com_mosforms&Itemid=180
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