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29-05-2020, 05:26 AM
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Is the truth still the truth even if everyone believes its a lie?
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31-05-2020, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker
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As the very bliss attribute
Playfully resolute
Ceasing to weigh & size
Orientation embracing surprise
Moment to moment alive
In ecstasy we cannot describe
Our present
Being sentient
To our own divinity within
As thunderous bliss ignition
In renewal
Continual
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Unseeking Seeker,
I would imagine that is exactly how the astronaut crew of the SpaceX Dragon feels, as the onlooking world vicariously remembers, in renewal continual, that its own humanity is Divinity in thunderous bliss ignition! 
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“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)
Last edited by guthrio : 31-05-2020 at 03:39 PM.
Reason: clarify inputs
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31-05-2020, 03:10 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by 4ppl3P13_
Is the truth still the truth even if everyone believes its a lie?
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Hi 4ppl3P13,
Welcome to Spiritual Forums,
When I asked the same question of myself, the following quote, taught me about an answer whose verity can only be continually tested within one's self....
...I have yet to find a lie to contradict it.
"Perfection does not come from projecting our own ideas but from awakening to the knowledge that it is already the established order of things."
This changed my life.
I leave it to you to ascertain the truth or lie of this statement to your own question.
See Volume 4, page 28/86, last sentence in paragraph 6 in the reference, below.
Again, welcome!
Reference: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...8&postcount=22
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“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)
Last edited by guthrio : 31-05-2020 at 03:32 PM.
Reason: clarify inputs
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10-06-2020, 10:34 AM
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Newbie ;)
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My present creates my future.
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10-06-2020, 09:59 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by noura
My present creates my future.
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Hi Noura,
Welcome to Spiritual Forums.
May you enjoy all the nows of you.
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“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)
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24-06-2020, 07:22 AM
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I have been gifting myself the state of "non resistence" over the last few days.
It feels much nicer for my nervous system and is showing me how I do not have to do or be anything in order to recieve everything I need.
Though every now and then I "freak out" that I am not "doing" enough but that is just an old thought pattern which is dying off to be filled with a new state of experience.
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27-06-2020, 07:35 AM
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RedEmbers,
....the gift of discovering Truth one has earnestly sought "tastes pretty good", too, doesn't it?
Makes ya wanna keep on "eating" even after one's heart is filled to overflowing 
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“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)
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27-06-2020, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by guthrio
RedEmbers,
....the gift of discovering Truth one has earnestly sought "tastes pretty good", too, doesn't it?
Makes ya wanna keep on "eating" even after one's heart is filled to overflowing |
I am not quite there yet but maybe soon I have been tasting the crumbs before the cake lol... I have a pidgeon sized stomach. |
27-06-2020, 11:59 AM
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"Perfection does not come from projecting our own ideas but from awakening to the knowledge that it is already the established order of things."
Brilliant guthrio,I think that statement will also change my life.(For the better).  |
27-06-2020, 12:36 PM
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I decided to give myself the gift of reading this entire thread 
There is some moresal of insight that I am missing.
I will need a cuppa and I will have questions :-) |
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