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Old 18-09-2011, 11:07 AM
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I'd love to see your artwork when able.
It sure sounds like an NDE ~ my grandmother had a very similar experience ~ they had already called my mom to the hospital because they thought she was gone, but she wasn't. Before this tunnel / grid experience, she had always been afraid of death. She told my mom that after that, she was no longer afraid to die.
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Old 18-09-2011, 01:10 PM
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It sure sounds like an NDE ...

Is it common for the NDE tunnel like experience be triggered by an illness such as the flu, strep throat, & tonsillitis? While having these all at the same time would be being very sick, it probably wasn’t life threatening for a 17 year old.
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Old 18-09-2011, 02:50 PM
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It would have scared me too to the max if I lost my vision for 20 minutes. This loss of vision would scare me seriously right now even if it was connected w/ another energetic experience that I wasn’t fearful of, so don’t criticize your self for this throwing you. I would have also thought it was a hallucination & wondered what the #@%~ had just happened.

LOL about the seeing your self w/ an OBE. Yep, that can really change your view about that. You KNOW it is a real experience. Nothing like that first hand been there, done that!!! I had a distinct spontaneous OBE when I was a teenager, seeing myself & the other person in the room as if I was right at the ceiling watching it all, but not seeing any body that was seeing it. As it was in the context of, umm, doing very some late 1960s type of partying, I thought the OBE was just a random effect of that. Years later I learned about OBEs & APing!

I used to worry about all sorts of stuff APing like it being problematic coming down into a power line or trees. LOL. Not a concern.

I wouldn’t say I was/am particularly brave. More like just curious. Any perceived bravery is just my belief that during such an adventure I can’t be hurt. Whether this is correct or not I don’t know, but this belief allows me to have an experience like this w/o fear. I’m very visually oriented, so the visual aspect of it is fascinating & appreciated as great eye candy. I would have been willing to have spent all night zooming around looking at the galaxies through that tube.

Don’t beat your self up about coudda, shoudda, etc. Anything that you didn’t experience is still a door ready to be opened. We should only proceed w/ what is our comfort level.

I really don’t know what the tunnel was. It seemed like some sort of energetic portal or wormhole. I got the impression it was some sort of dimensional travel, but I’m not sure. It could have been a visit to another galaxy or something. I did get the impression that it was a vast distance from Earth whatever kind of travel it was as it seemed that I saw several distant galaxies through the tube. I was more curious about where I had been than the journey back though! LOL. Of course, the lesson in that experience could have been the journey, not the destination. I really don’t spend allot of time thinking about it other than having a fond partial memory of a fun little excursion.

As we expand our awareness we have all types of abilities unfold. One of these is remembering our nocturnal journeys. I have, as do many others, snippets of these come through in conscious recollection. We will progressively remember more of them. As I’m visually oriented what comes through as a gateway ability for me is often the visual stuff. For those who are oriented to be telepathic, their gateway is probably more telepathic.

We are just beginning to scratch the surface about Universal energies & how they operate. It is likely that our scientists will learn, if they haven’t already done so that there are energetic portals that can be utilized. They may have already passed this threshold, but the information is still classified. There are various ancient legends where they talk about energy portals where people came & went. I think I recall one such legend being in the US SW.







There really is SO much that we just don’t know... It’s mind-boggling. I would have loved to have seen what you saw! Astronomy has always been my passion. Even when I was a child; in school, I remember never having to study for any kind of exam regarding outer space.

The closest I’ve come to this kind of experience was; this past December I had a dream I was hovering over the planet. I was with someone that I couldn’t see; we were just floating there looking down. At one point I turned around and looked and could see the center of the galaxy. I could see this big white mass surrounded by billions of stars. It all seemed so vivid and so alive; it was truly breath-taking! All of the sudden I was right there beside a Neutron Star, speeding its way to our solar system. I asked the being what was happening, he said we were about to become a Binary-Star system.

I just wish I were conscious during this ordeal. I didn’t know what had happened until I woke up; but remembered everything in perfect detail.

Sorry I got off subject, your experience just reminded me of this dream; I had almost forgotten it.

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Old 18-09-2011, 03:18 PM
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I'd love to see your artwork when able.
It sure sounds like an NDE ~ my grandmother had a very similar experience ~ they had already called my mom to the hospital because they thought she was gone, but she wasn't. Before this tunnel / grid experience, she had always been afraid of death. She told my mom that after that, she was no longer afraid to die.



Not a problem. Although I’m not an artist so don’t expect too much. I’ll look for it and try and post it today.

Did your grandmother experience anything else beside the tunnel/grid? Like maybe loved ones? My father had a car accident about five years back. The doctors said he died a few times during multiple operations he underwent. Anyway, he said he never saw a tunnel but had conversations with some relatives that have passed. He also said he felt at peace; and like your grandmother has no fear of death.

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Old 19-09-2011, 09:14 AM
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Okay, this is my drawing of the tunnel that appeared in front of me that night. I’m not an artist so I just did the best I could. I would like to say I did a Photoshop adjustment to the tunnel. All I did was invert the color of just the tunnel; everything that I drew black was actually some kind of white energy. Just thought you’d get a better idea as to what it is I saw.

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Old 20-09-2011, 09:01 PM
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Greg, I have just read your fascinating experience and I think you have done an excellent job of the drawing.
I wanted to comment because when I first saw your drawing it seemed to trigger a split-second feeling of familiarity, like I had seen something very similar before. I can't put my finger on it exactly. Maybe I have seen it or something like it on t.v or in a movie, but the memory does seem to be more profound than that. I did experience the start of a spontaneous OBE a couple of months back and for some reason it made me think of that even though I didn't see any tunnels or the like during the experience. Weird!
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Old 20-09-2011, 09:13 PM
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Not a problem. Although I’m not an artist so don’t expect too much. I’ll look for it and try and post it today.

Did your grandmother experience anything else beside the tunnel/grid? Like maybe loved ones? My father had a car accident about five years back. The doctors said he died a few times during multiple operations he underwent. Anyway, he said he never saw a tunnel but had conversations with some relatives that have passed. He also said he felt at peace; and like your grandmother has no fear of death.

Greg


The only info I had about my grandmother's experience was 2nd-hand thru my mom. That's all she said about it. I'm thinking maybe my grandmother didn't get far enough into the tunnel to realize that maybe there are angels or welcoming souls/spirits and the love she felt was enough to comfort her into no longer being afraid to die. That's a great piece of artwork you did.

Mattie, I probably shouldve said an Obe, but people can and do die suddenly at all ages so I guess how will we ever know how close we've come...there's no telling but yeah, at least an obe...
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Old 21-09-2011, 09:42 AM
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Greg, I have just read your fascinating experience and I think you have done an excellent job of the drawing.
I wanted to comment because when I first saw your drawing it seemed to trigger a split-second feeling of familiarity, like I had seen something very similar before. I can't put my finger on it exactly. Maybe I have seen it or something like it on t.v or in a movie, but the memory does seem to be more profound than that. I did experience the start of a spontaneous OBE a couple of months back and for some reason it made me think of that even though I didn't see any tunnels or the like during the experience. Weird!
Thanks for sharing







Thanx, I just wish I was a better artist, my portrait doesn’t do what I actually saw justice. For my mind to create something so complex without ever seeing anything like it before just doesn’t seem plausible to me. It appeared too intelligent like it served a purpose... That's just my thoughts.

Something that I’ve been wondering recently; if I hadn’t looked into the mirror would I have even seen this tunnel? I ask this because my eyesight seemed fine up to that point. It was the precise second that I turned around and looked into the mirror that this thing appeared. It looked like it came out of the mirror then engulfed my vision completely.

Yeah, I’ve had a few OBE’s, but don’t remember seeing anything like that again; I’m not saying others don’t. Sometimes I see flashes of multi-colored lights followed by a popping sound, but that was completely different from the tunnel.

Was that your first almost OBE, or have you had others?

Thank you for your response Rainbowcrow
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Old 21-09-2011, 10:08 AM
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The only info I had about my grandmother's experience was 2nd-hand thru my mom. That's all she said about it. I'm thinking maybe my grandmother didn't get far enough into the tunnel to realize that maybe there are angels or welcoming souls/spirits and the love she felt was enough to comfort her into no longer being afraid to die. That's a great piece of artwork you did.

Mattie, I probably shouldve said an Obe, but people can and do die suddenly at all ages so I guess how will we ever know how close we've come...there's no telling but yeah, at least an obe...







I’ve had a few people ask me what it felt like; if I experienced a peaceful feeling. But to be honest I don’t remember; I’m almost positive if I had handled it a little better and didn’t panic I would have sensed something more… One thing I do remember was a rushing sensation; I was being pulled (sucked) through this tunnel at what felt to be a VERY high rate of speed. I remember not wanting to reach the light for fear I would die.

I have experienced that peace during meditation and during an AP. Once my soul left my physical body and I was able to see this transformation occur, I lost all fear of death as well. Of course I’m sure this is the case with everyone who has this kind of experience.

Silvergirl, I’ll be sure to tell my father about your grandmother’s experience. After his return from the other-side he has been fascinated with others who’ve experienced what he went through.

Thanx for sharing,
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Old 01-10-2011, 10:15 PM
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Thanx, I just wish I was a better artist, my portrait doesn’t do what I actually saw justice. For my mind to create something so complex without ever seeing anything like it before just doesn’t seem plausible to me. It appeared too intelligent like it served a purpose... That's just my thoughts.

Something that I’ve been wondering recently; if I hadn’t looked into the mirror would I have even seen this tunnel? I ask this because my eyesight seemed fine up to that point. It was the precise second that I turned around and looked into the mirror that this thing appeared. It looked like it came out of the mirror then engulfed my vision completely.

Yeah, I’ve had a few OBE’s, but don’t remember seeing anything like that again; I’m not saying others don’t. Sometimes I see flashes of multi-colored lights followed by a popping sound, but that was completely different from the tunnel.

Was that your first almost OBE, or have you had others?

Thank you for your response Rainbowcrow
Greg

Hi Greg,
yes, that was my first 'almost' OBE, I have recently brought some books on OBEs and APing, so I hope to have more experiences. It has actually taken some time for me to get my head around my OBE experience and I really want to make sure that I work through the 'fear' side of it all before having a conscious attempt at achieving another. I have to say though, the complete awe I have for the spontaneous experience has really overridden much of the fear, but I want to feel totally confident before I experience something similar again.
The way in which you talk about your 'tunnel' experience sounds very similar to how I felt about my OBE. There is just the sense that it happened for a reason and that there is no way that my 'brain' could have created such a detailed reality - and that's the point, it was just so damned REAL!! I know that what I felt and saw was not as simple as a hallucination or a dream - it was a very profound experience on a conscious level. I also felt like it was an experience that I HAD to HAVE for whatever reason.
Whether you would have had the experience if you hadn't of looked into the mirror, I don't know, but you DID have the experience and I think that's all that counts. The fact that it has got you exploring beyond physical reality and into the deep, dark depths of consciousness, I think is a really important factor since, in my opinion, I really believe that these things happen for a reason. I was wondering, and forgive me if you have mentioned this in an earlier post, but have you found any accounts of others who have had a similar experience to yours? It certainly would be interesting to be able to 'compare notes' and see if the mirror was in fact some sort of 'trigger'. Your experience really does fascinate me, especially since it compares so well to NDEs.

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