Shutting Off The Monkey Mind

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

What I was advised and it works very well --is to talk to the mind,
trick it actually, by saying,
''You can think about these things as much as you want LATER! Right now, I'm resting - gonna drift off into meditation."

Yes and an excellent suggestion!

This link starts at the relevant point but the entire presentation is well worth watching if one seeks better understanding and guidance on meditation.

https://youtu.be/UUnUjkxuZOk?list=PL...Rm5Y J&t=1485

Acknowledgment: Thanks to Shivani Devi for turning me on to this channel.

Here's another approach and from the Tibetan Buddhist perspective and on the lighter side. Again the link starts at the relevant position but the entire presentation is well worth watching.

https://youtu.be/dG5ywz8OGqo?list=PL...QRm5Y J&t=449

The above link starts at the 7:29 mark and he doesn't reveal his secret (the solution) until the 33:20 mark. He's long-winded. LOL!

https://youtu.be/dG5ywz8OGqo?list=PL...Rm5Y J&t=1999

It's really worth watching at least from 7:29 until at least 38:00.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

https://youtu.be/dG5ywz8OGqo?list=PL...QRm5Y J&t=449

The above link starts at the 7:29 mark and he doesn't reveal his secret (the solution) until the 33:20 mark.
He's long-winded. LOL! It's still worth watching full 26+ minutes to get the full point of the lesson.

Yes, lighthearted - very good!

[lomax]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

What I was advised and it works very well --is to talk to the mind,
trick it actually, by saying,
''You can think about these things as much as you want LATER! Right now, I'm resting - gonna drift off into meditation."

It works well, for me.

Another thing I was taught (by Indian teachers, btw) that also works super well - He said,
"If your mind must talk...then say this, 'I know You are there Lord - You are hiding...I will sit and wait for You to show Yourself..."
Smiling.

Sorry for this,and i can't tell you where to post or not,but i want you to know that you're not welcomed from me.
Just to clear things up.

[lomax]

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

Here's another approach and from the Tibetan Buddhist perspective and on the lighter side. Again the link starts at the relevant position but the entire presentation is well worth watching.

https://youtu.be/dG5ywz8OGqo?list=PL...QRm5Y J&t=449

The above link starts at the 7:29 mark and he doesn't reveal his secret (the solution) until the 33:20 mark. He's long-winded. LOL!

https://youtu.be/dG5ywz8OGqo?list=PL...Rm5Y J&t=1999

It's really worth watching at least from 7:29 until at least 38:00.

Thanks for this.

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by lomax

I grab things from your posts.For example i didn't know that calling my guides to put me in trance can work.But i can't do it anytime anywhere.Still i have to find a way to get into a light trance before that,and there's allways a constant feeling of fear and stress,running in the background.I ignore it,but i can feel it's there.(Also i'm not sure if the trance state i can reach is a light or a heavy one).

For example let's say that you want to manifest money.How can i tell my subconsious to put me in the correct trance state?I mean what the wording would be?

This is a post that gives a good idea how I get into light trance:

Originally Posted by inavalan
I get into a light trance (20-30%) to open a clean communication with my subconscious, then I ask it for a trance appropriate for whatever experience I decided to have. I wait a few seconds until I reach that level (15-30 seconds) then go with my experience.

Different experiences need different trance levels, and you start from various levels of awakeness, so mechanically following any given technique, it's likely that you'll end up all over the place, and not reach the trance level appropriate for your experience.

To get into a light trance: I breath in, hold for 2-3 seconds, then breath out, for a total of about 10 seconds (it doesn't have to be exact, you just want to generate a little hyperventilation, because that favors getting into trance). Then, I silently say a couple of words that I set up through posthypnotic suggestion, long ago, as a trigger (another 2-3 seconds).

And how I go about contacting my sybconscious:

Originally Posted by inavalan
The way I do this:
- go into a light trance (just enough to feel a weak connection with subconscious)
- ask subconscious to establish an optimum two-way connection with me (this is a state beyond trance, that feels like an immersion)
- describe what I want, being open for subconscious' feedback (yes / no / not this way / that way)
- am only as specific as I need to be (too many specifics might delay the task, even make it impossible)
- make sure to specify constraints of safety, benefits to me and others (otherwise subconscious might not mind causing some collateral damage)
- no reason to repeat the requests, once accepted (those who recommend repetitions, do not establish a good connection first)
- make as many requests as I want (it is ridiculous to believe that subconscious can't handle more than one request at a time, when it already does so much)
- have a permanent list of 7 wishes, prioritized by importance
- when a specific new wish arises, I go through the same process, stressing its importance, urgency, framework

I guess a wording for money, could be: "I want to be wealthy", or "I want to have one million US dollars in the bank", or "I want to have enough money to help all those I care about", anything. You should give a timeframe for your wish to materialize, a timeframe you feel is believable to you, or your doubts weakens your request.

Then you should try to project (imagine yourself) into a probable future, when your wish was already fully granted, and feel how will it be in that situation, being content, being happy, being confident. Do it for a couple of minutes, or however long you need to daydream well that.

Then just tell to yourself in one short statement something on the lines of "and now I'm creating it", or "and so it is", ... Say it as a matter of fact, and move your thoughts away to something else.

What you should expect to happen, is that you'll start to get money coming your way. There may be grants, or bank / credit card promotions, or a salary increase, or unexpected useful deals for things you want or need.

You'll notice there's a trend that develops toward your wish fulfillment.

Be careful not to introduce doubts, or fears, or unnecessary excitement. You can repeat the procedure, in about the same terms, to enforce it. But don't keep repeating it, because it actually means that you doubt the process.

If your goal is big, it may take longer. It works.

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

Even rest in that space outside thought where we are our true nature and when thought is present, experiencing thought just like we experience the mind's construct of external reality.

So in my experience meditation first reveals that space between thoughts where we first get a glimpse of our true nature and once that's realized there exists the possibility to rest in that same space even when thoughts are present and simply be the witness of thought, even be the witness of ego appropriating ownership and doership.

Indeed. We realise that each thought arises out of nothing and dissolves back into nothing. And in that nothingness we find peace and stillness.

Peace

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by iamthat

Indeed. We realise that each thought arises out of nothing and dissolves back into nothing.
And in that nothingness we find peace and stillness.
Peace

I love it.

[lomax]

Unfortunately the ignore button doesn't do the job i want.Seems like i'll be seeing these fake smiley faces either i like it or not.

Originally Posted by iamthat

Indeed. We realise that each thought arises out of nothing and dissolves back into nothing. And in that nothingness we find peace and stillness.

Peace

That's my experience of the bliss in Existence, Consciousness, Bliss. It's resting in the unchanging, undisturbed by the changing.