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Old 04-03-2017, 05:02 AM
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My take on it is that I already am That but I was programmed, by other programmed folks, to believe that I am a limited, separate person in a world of other separate, limited persons/objects and so I LOST my original sense of Oneness or Unity (not-two) at a very early age. I've been "seeking" for a long time and now, thanks to the new teachers like Tony, I can see that I never lost anything and always was and always will be That or whatever it's called. This is it!
And for you, what are the practical, real life implications and results of this insight?
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:28 PM
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I'd be interested in reading more about your "spiritual mentor" and the process that you engaged in on the way to awakening or whatever happened.
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My teacher avoided publicity and there is very little written about her. However, Linda Johnson was able to interview her sufficiently to include her in the book, Living Women Saints of India.

https://books.google.com/books?id=AC...shakti&f=false
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Old 20-03-2017, 12:01 PM
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Maybe all versions are useful when the different character of seekers is taken into account. The different versions become an issue when they have to be defended by believers who hold their particular version to be the true one and the others false. The more vehement the allegation of falseness, the more insecure the belief.

Why seekers resonate with one version rather than another may depend on the character. For example a mind that is used to successfully solving problems may prefer a version that offers something to do, a practice, while minds that fail to find solutions may select a version that requires nothing as some Neo Advaita versions would have it.

Horses for courses as they say racing.
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Old 21-11-2017, 07:17 AM
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Maybe all versions are useful when the different character of seekers is taken into account. The different versions become an issue when they have to be defended by believers who hold their particular version to be the true one and the others false. The more vehement the allegation of falseness, the more insecure the belief.

Why seekers resonate with one version rather than another may depend on the character. For example a mind that is used to successfully solving problems may prefer a version that offers something to do, a practice, while minds that fail to find solutions may select a version that requires nothing as some Neo Advaita versions would have it.

Horses for courses as they say racing.
So much of THIS!

Of course you all know by now that I am a traditional Advaitin and for the past week I have been busy saying how everything that could be said about the subject already HAS been, some 2,000 years ago.

That being said, if people come to the direct realisation of Brahman studying 'Winnie-The-Poo' that's also fine. It's the realisation that matters, not the method. Who cares if you travel to Arunachala using a taxi or a bullock-cart?...as long as it doesn't break down and you arrive there is the main thing.
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if people come to the direct realisation of Brahman studying 'Winnie-The-Poo' that's also fine. It's the realisation that matters, not the method.


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Old 22-11-2017, 03:59 PM
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Since this thread has been revived, a previous contribution here:


http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...1&postcount=18


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Old 23-11-2017, 05:43 AM
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So much of THIS!

Of course you all know by now that I am a traditional Advaitin and for the past week I have been busy saying how everything that could be said about the subject already HAS been, some 2,000 years ago.

That being said, if people come to the direct realisation of Brahman studying 'Winnie-The-Poo' that's also fine. It's the realisation that matters, not the method. Who cares if you travel to Arunachala using a taxi or a bullock-cart?...as long as it doesn't break down and you arrive there is the main thing.

Yes but it is also worth noting that not all seekers describe the destination of the search in the same way. Realization of what? For some it is the end of feeling disconnected. That will not be enough for others. Each can be respected.
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Old 23-11-2017, 06:13 AM
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Yes but it is also worth noting that not all seekers describe the destination of the search in the same way. Realization of what? For some it is the end of feeling disconnected. That will not be enough for others. Each can be respected.
For some, it is also 'Satchitananda'...existence/truth, consciousness and bliss. The destination is beyond description anyway, so even if anybody tries to describe it, it will be 'nope, that ain't it'...and yet, that's the only thing that everybody can agree upon despite their methodology of attainment.
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Old 23-11-2017, 07:03 AM
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For some, it is also 'Satchitananda'...existence/truth, consciousness and bliss. The destination is beyond description anyway, so even if anybody tries to describe it, it will be 'nope, that ain't it'...and yet, that's the only thing that everybody can agree upon despite their methodology of attainment.

Yes and no doubt there are many more descriptions of the destination. So be I say and lets respect all.
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