Ramakrishna said...I want to taste sugar, not be sugar..

[Amilius777]

Religious People: There is only One God! And you are his filthy creature!

Spiritual New Ager: You are God! You are Perfect! You don't need to transform!

Does anyone else see the big problem with both these issues?

In America women are completely exposed and clothing is scarce.

In Islamic countries women are covered from head to toe.

Do you see the problem here?

In politics Conservatives are obsessed with your race, gender, your religion, union of church and state, going to War with other countries, and lowering taxes.

Liberals are obsessed with your small voice, separation of everything, lying down for the world to use you and trample over you, highering your taxes, and making sure you feel comfortable in your everyday state, never transforming higher.

Does anyone else see a problem with these two issues?

[psychoslice]

All I see is stupid beliefs lol.

Originally Posted by Amilius777

Religious People: There is only One God! And you are his filthy creature!

Spiritual New Ager: You are God! You are Perfect! You don't need to transform!

Does anyone else see the big problem with both these issues?

In America women are completely exposed and clothing is scarce.

In Islamic countries women are covered from head to toe.

Do you see the problem here?

In politics Conservatives are obsessed with your race, gender, your religion, union of church and state, going to War with other countries, and lowering taxes.

Liberals are obsessed with your small voice, separation of everything, lying down for the world to use you and trample over you, highering your taxes, and making sure you feel comfortable in your everyday state, never transforming higher.

Does anyone else see a problem with these two issues?

You over-generalize people and groups in a very unfavorable way, big-time, throughout the majority of your posts on this website, spending most of your focus and time on making "others" look bad, and you are obsessed with "the past." You are far more "dangerous" than those you often point the finger of hatred towards, such as Sathya Sai Baba. I am not the only one here to notice this. The only "problem" for you is your foul attitude, my friend. It is SELF-HATRED you are dealing with. The solution? Upgrade your self-esteem.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by TThor

I'm sad I missed this thread :/

I have first lived and then tried to live this ideal of Bhakti (taste the sugar) for more than 20 years. Ramakrishna (and Vivekananda) were my initiators when I was 17. I would have much to say about this sugar... and that I wish I could taste it more.

While praying to God, ask only for love for His Lotus Feet.

I missed this come back of my thread!

Thank you all...

So Ramakrishna thru Vivekananda were your first encounters with ...um...spiritual stuff?
I didn't know what you meant by initiation....I take that word literally, maybe I shouldn't.
I was thinking, OMG, Thor is really really OLD, he knew Vivekananda!!!....took me a minute:

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I missed this come back of my thread!

Thank you all...

So Ramakrishna thru Vivekananda were your first encounters with ...um...spiritual stuff?
I didn't know what you meant by initiation....I take that word literally, maybe I shouldn't.
I was thinking, OMG, Thor is really really OLD, he knew Vivekananda!!!....took me a minute:

Hahaha, you're funny, I would have been really old :) English is not my mother tongue, so...

First 'chosen' stuff should I say. Born and raised Christian. But in reality I'm Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Sufi... all and none at the same time. I've always said that, He who is truly thirsty does not look at the color of the glass.

So long as the water be clean, or better, not too dirty :)

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by TThor

Ok :) and this one from Vivekananda, Bhakti Yoga (from the conclusion)

When this highest ideal of love is reached, philosophy is thrown away; who will then care for it? Freedom, salvation, Nirvâna—all are thrown away; who cares to become free while in the enjoyment of divine love? “Lord, I do not want wealth, nor friends, nor beauty, nor learning, nor even freedom; let me be born again and again, and be Thou ever my Love. Be Thou ever and ever my Love.” “Who cares to become sugar,” says the Bhakta, “I want to taste sugar.”

EXACTLY!!!!


(Btw, what page is that on?)

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by TThor

Born and raised Christian. But in reality I'm Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Sufi... all:)

You didn't just say that....I always say I'm a Christian, Buddhist,
Hindu,Sikh, menopausal mystic!!!!

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

EXACTLY!!!!


(Btw, what page is that on?)

It's on page 98 of the following PDF (or page 92 of the edition) http://venerabilisopus.org/en/librar...ga-english.pdf

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

You didn't just say that....I always say I'm a Christian, Buddhist,
Hindu,Sikh, menopausal mystic!!!!

Hahaha menopausal mystic! ahaha, it's good
Mysticism is good, whatever the kind :)

When I look at a St Francis, St Clare, Ramakrishna, Rumi, and so many others and others and others, I wish I could be more mystic. True and authentic mysticism is the highest gift of all. Blessed are the lotus feet of such a soul.

Originally Posted by Sourcerer

You over-generalize people and groups in a very unfavorable way, big-time, throughout the majority of your posts on this website, spending most of your focus and time on making "others" look bad, and you are obsessed with "the past." You are far more "dangerous" than those you often point the finger of hatred towards, such as Sathya Sai Baba. I am not the only one here to notice this. The only "problem" for you is your foul attitude, my friend. It is SELF-HATRED you are dealing with. The solution? Upgrade your self-esteem.

I think that you are totally right, no one should be judgmental. It is part of all authentic messages, "Do not look at the straw...". But is also part of spirituality, religions, whatever the name, to point finger at the ignorance of this day and age. For example if I say that rich people don't give enough money to the poor; in general, who could argue with this? It is a fact. In particular, some rich people are very generous, and only our Lord and God can be the judge (whomever He may be). There has been much blood spilled and still is, in the name of Religion, 'my' truth, etc., etc., etc. It is horrible, we all know it.

Not to judge anyone's ideal doesn't mean that all ideals are good. To show by extreme, here is an example: a judge can sentence a mass murdered to prison with anger, or not... it makes a big difference; but the mass murdered is dangerous regardless :)