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Old 21-05-2011, 05:19 PM
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The Lords Prayer

Where does this prayer originate from? Sorry to be so ignorant but I don't even know if it is in the Bible.

I take it has Jewish origins. Or is it of Christian origin?

The prayer which goes like this;

"Our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name,
Thy Kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven,
Give us this day our daily bread,
And forgive us our tresspasses,
As we forgive those who tresspass against us,
Save us from Evil,
And lead us not into temptation,
For thine is the Kingdom,
The power and the glory,
Forever and ever,
Amen."

Is that how it goes, or have I missed anything?

Thankyou for any information about "The Lords Prayer".
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Old 21-05-2011, 05:22 PM
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Our father who art in heaven
hallowed be thy name
thy kingdom come
thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven
give us this day our daily bread
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us
and lead us not into temptation
but deliver us from evil
for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory
forever and ever
amen

That's how the one goes I was raised with.
Idk the other answers to your questions.
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Old 21-05-2011, 05:28 PM
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Thats it Silvergirl. I thought I muddled it up somewhere.

"...and lead us not into temptation
but deliver us from Evil...."

is where I got muddled up.

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Old 21-05-2011, 05:50 PM
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No problem, glad to help.
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Old 21-05-2011, 06:02 PM
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Jesus was an itenerant teacher/preacher, going around telling large groups of people parables intended to show them a more loving way of living. One of his disciples followed him up a hillside one day and asked him to teach him how to pray to God as he did himself. Jesus shared a format for prayer, not some dogma that should be followed exactly by every group every time they get together for more than 2,000 years. So many people forget to think for themselves, eh?

Yes, it's in the bible, Matthew 6: 9-13. Also Luke 11: 2-4.
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Old 21-05-2011, 06:26 PM
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Right. What seems to have become the habit is to say the Lord's Prayer and then tack on whatever we feel the need to speak to him about. Growing up, my mom taught us to say the lord's prayer and then God bless and then name all of our family members. Then of course, tack on our own personal private stuff...
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Old 21-05-2011, 06:52 PM
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Hnoza,

There are similar things in the Lord's prayer that are found in the OT. It isn't word for word, now rather that is because of translation or not I do not know. Hope this helps some.

Elements of the Lord's Prayer can be found in the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Hebrew Scriptures. Lancelot Andrews (1555-1626), an Anglican writer, paraphrased the Lord's Prayer from Old Testament passages:

"Let thy name be called upon of us. (Genesis 4:26). Be thou our shield and our exceeding great reward (Genesis 15:1). What word so ever proceedeth from thee, Let it not be in us to speak aught against it, whether good or bad, (Numbers 24:13). Give us bread to eat and raiment to put on. (Genesis 2:8-20). And now pardon the iniquity and the unrighteousness of thy servants. (Numbers 14:19). And, O Lord, let us not think anxiously in our hearts all the day long. (Deuteronomy 28:32). And let no evils take hold of us, (Deuteronomy 31:17)" 1 http://www.religioustolerance.org/prayer_4.htm

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Old 24-05-2011, 12:15 AM
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Honza,

As far as I know, this prayer has very little Jewish roots that you could specifically point to (for the entire prayer). I suppose you could trace back some of the original phrases and words? When would a prayer like this be recited?

Most Jewish prayers have specific times/applications that they are known for. For example, there are daily morning, mid-day and evening prayers. There are prayers for Shabbat, and prayers for certain days of the year.

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Old 24-05-2011, 12:17 AM
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Then there are numerous blessings...
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Old 24-05-2011, 02:39 AM
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I love this prayer because as a girl growing up in South Africa in a catholic school we would say that prayer every morning in assembly with the whole school/teachers/principle etc.
I still say this prayer today although I don't consider myself a Catholic.
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