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Old 15-09-2011, 01:55 PM
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This is a very old view of the inkubus/sukkubus protection

The Hag Stone is a stone with a hole through it, which is believed to ward off witches and the 'evil eye'.

At night the hag stones should be hung on bed-posts to keep away the demons such as the Night Hag, Nightmare or Succubus who would invisibly seek out their sleeping victims.

I collect them on a local beach

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Old 15-09-2011, 07:12 PM
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That's good to know.

I suppose I should also mention. I feed off others negative energy and emotions. I have lots of similarities to these kinds of spirits and I find that people often mistake me for one of them (this is when I am in a body and outside of it.) I also practice the "art" of possession, not being possessed, I mean the act itself.

Also, in your first post when you mentioned some things I could see why they react the way they do to some of your reactions and behaviours toward them. Offering healing is actually quite offensive when they actually aren't damaged at all, its a bit of an insult to their existence. Like your saying they are somehow "wrong" to their core, as if they are not meant to be the way they are.....

But anyways, I should stop rambling on.

I hope I've made it a bit clearer as to why I'm drawn to them and seek them out.


Actually, I am aware that my behavior is considered "offensive" from a shadow point of view. But these entities are coming to me, I don't seek them out. They are coming in to my space, so instead of giving them what they want (manufactured fear and hatred), I offer them the only genuine thing I have to give, which is love. It is actually a very elegant way to avoid being anyone's lunch

Thank you for explaining more about your attraction to shadows. Yes I do understand you better now. That is so interesting and unique. I have never had the chance to chat with someone who feeds off of negative emotions, or possesses others. Are those things something that you share with another consenting person, or is your host unaware of what you do?

I am not judging or condemning you, by the way. I don't know if that matters to you or not. But I am genuinely just curious and would like to hear more about your activities if you are willing to share.

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Old 15-09-2011, 10:37 PM
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The Hag Stone is a stone with a hole through it, which is believed to ward off witches and the 'evil eye'.

Ah, I remember them. Those stones are interesting if a person knows how to use them effectively. I've heard in the past through various rumours that if a person is able to "see" (energy/spirits/view without personal perceptions) through the "eyepiece" of a Hagstone then they could communicate directly with the earth itself and are apparently "marked" to become something of the earths ambassador.

I've always wondered how the custom of using them as wards was first begun. I might research that.


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It is actually a very elegant way to avoid being anyone's lunch

Hmm, elegant, but frustraiting and dare I say a bit pointless. I find its easier to just stay nutural so that the shadow can ghost you until you get into some strife, at which point they could feed off it and maybe cause the entire situation to end abruptly. They're all opportunists and, contrary to the belief that they create misfortune, I've come to understand that they are actually just drawn to it (like me.) I can see how people would think it is drawn to them, easy assumption to make.

I can predict the nature, the vague location and the general size of a lot of the unfortunate happenings in my area if I focus enough, but most of the time I just happen to be in the "wrong" place at the right time.

This is random, but I find it interesting so I'll mention it. The cancer wards of my local hospital are like a huge mecca for shadows, they take in a lot of the foul energy there and in a way it actually helps the patients stay balanced because the emotionally charged energy in the air doesn't cling to them, but rather gets "cleared.' So, in situations when there is fear and pain and crazy emotions on a large scale the natural consuming behaviour of shadows can be beneficial, sometimes even create a calming affect like being in the eye of a storm and, therefore, open the way to a swift recovery.

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I am not judging or condemning you, by the way. I don't know if that matters to you or not. But I am genuinely just curious and would like to hear more about your activities if you are willing to share.

I've been condemned and judged enough for me to stop caring whether its happening or not. It looses its personal affect after a few decades. I'm sure you understand what I mean. I simply say each to his own and attempt to keep things as low key as possible. Safety and survival is always my top priority.

So yes, I'd be glad to share if you share in return. My knowledge for yours, that kind of deal.

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Are those things something that you share with another consenting person, or is your host unaware of what you do?

Usually it's consented, but if I'm out of my body I tend not to think with the same moralistic "human" logic (if my normal logic can even be called moral. heh) so I tend to slip out of my body during the day (I'm mostly nocturnal outside of societys schooling timezones) and get some energy via dreamwalking and astral projection. I rarely take much from people around here since it takes a lot of energy to make my spirit form visible and to manipulate them in the ways that will give me the energy I am most attuned/specialised to take. To be blunt, targeting individuals around here isn't worth the effort. Small reward for a large risk.

With consenting persons I usually give healing in return for feeding off their own personal hang ups and nerves. Over a long period of time it can sometimes become a bit too much for some people, so I give them all the open choice to tell me when my services aren't needed any longer.

Unconsenting (when I am in a body) are those difficult situations where someones insulted me in a way that makes me loose my cool. It takes a lot to make me angry, and only a few specific things can do that, so it's often not a very common thing to have happen. I'm usually deathly calm and serene, which I'm told "creeps" people out...I suppose being creepy is better than being downright scary.

It may seem harsh, but the ones who do incite unpleasant reactions in me usually deserve all they recieve, and I do not say that lightly or from a personal perspective either because I take no satisfaction or pride in it. There are consequences for every action, I happen to naturally provoke those consequences tenfold if certain actions are taken against me. I've had people think I've cursed them before because of it, it can become a bit of a nusance but it just "happens" so I accept it as it is.

That's about all I can think to write at this point. Hope I've given you something to think about and not made myself appear too intense in the process.

What do you understand about shadows? Are there any specific situations you'd like to share?
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Old 16-09-2011, 12:19 PM
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Sangress, I really like your concept of the spirit world as a sort of balanced ecosystem, with entities fitting a particular energy niche to make a whole. That's a really cool idea. It reminds me a little of something a friend of mine told me once. He said there are spirits out there who would "eat" you, but in the way that a lion would eat a gazelle. that it's just a part of their nature and it's not necessary to think of it as "evil".

You seem to know a lot more about shadow nature than I do. Maybe when I say I'm not seeking them out or inviting them in, that could be true on a conscious level. But the emotional pain in me is drawing them. Like blood in the water would draw a shark. I will have to think about that more.

As for what I understand about shadow entities, very little. All of my encounters with them have been something akin to home invasion/attempted rape type scenarios. They're rarely in the mood to sit and chat over a cup of tea All I really know is that as you said there are dark beings that have no human form, that have probably never incarnated as human on earth. They appear to me as smaller than human size, sometimes slightly animal looking or they will have no shape and just be a kind of mist or a cloud. Sometimes they just want to climb around on the walls or the ceiling and watch me, other times they dart across the room and "jump" on me, which tends to black out my vision for a second. And there are shadow beings that look perfectly human, which might be people who have died physically and for whatever reason decided to take up feeding on low vibrations. I have not had any of those human ones try to jump me. They prefer to stand at the end of the bed and watch me. One of them last year was very strong, very distinct almost like a physical person standing there. That was the being that sucked all the air out of the room and I felt like there was a weight crushing me onto the bed. I also heard a ringing tone in my ears. No idea what that was all about.

I remember several years back one human looking shadow that was running through the woods following me as I was driving to work. I remember thinking how odd that was because I hardly ever see them when I'm away from home. Later that night as I was coming back, the car skidded on a patch of drifted snow and I landed in the ditch. This was on a sub-zero night with a pretty stiff wind, and I was not dressed for the walk home. It was on the same stretch of road where I had seen my little friend earlier. So I guess either he caused the accident, or sensed it was going to happen and was waiting for the dinner bell to ring.

That's about the extent of anything useful that I can share. The techniques I have developed to protect myself were based mostly on trial and error. Asking some protecting angel or guide to intervene and help me has never once gotten rid of a shadow being. Almost like everyone is standing back and waiting for me to handle it on my own. I treat my experiences as some kind of training, for a purpose I am not aware of.
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Old 16-09-2011, 11:15 PM
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Sangress, I really like your concept of the spirit world as a sort of balanced ecosystem, with entities fitting a particular energy niche to make a whole. That's a really cool idea. It reminds me a little of something a friend of mine told me once. He said there are spirits out there who would "eat" you, but in the way that a lion would eat a gazelle. that it's just a part of their nature and it's not necessary to think of it as "evil".

Hah, thats very ironic considering that exact explanation is the one I use, even the metaphor with the lion and gazelle.

I think that there is such a thing as "pure evil", as in a natural and well placed kind of negativity or predatory/dangerious nature.

I also think that if something is meant to be "dark" then it will thrive in that kind of environment, but if something is imbalanced and an individual has become something like that, then they would seem ill and very unhappy/hatrfull/resentfull.

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One of them last year was very strong, very distinct almost like a physical person standing there. That was the being that sucked all the air out of the room and I felt like there was a weight crushing me onto the bed. I also heard a ringing tone in my ears. No idea what that was all about.

I've been told I have that affect on others (I've deliberately instigated it a few times as well,) though my non-physical form isn't human in the least. As soon as I let my aura flow freely and stop restraining my energy and keeping control, then the room drops in temperature, people around me feel like there is a weight over them (my aura i think) and they all feel the energy/breath getting dragged out of them.

I find it quite interesting that some shadows do that whilst others don't, perhaps the shadowy appearence has to do with a deeper energetic resonance rather than actually being energetically predatory. I have yet to figure it all out.

Thank you for sharing, it's brought up a couple of things that have verified behaviours I've watched in different "types" of shadows. I could detail my version of them if you like, though its all from personal experience so it probably wont be in line with what other websites/people write.
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Old 17-09-2011, 12:51 AM
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Hello

I share here how I came to learn on Succubus.....

What is a Succubus?

The Succubus is often confused with a Psychic Vampire but they are two different things. Yes both drain energies but the Succubus is not human in form as having a living physical body.

The Succubus is often referred to as a demon that takes on the shape of a female, said to steal energies from men in their sleep. In the 15th Century came forth the Incubus the male counterpart of the Succubus. The Incubus takes on male form to drain energy from woman in their sleep.

They are thought to appear mostly in sleep. They are said to possess the ability to have sexual relations with their victims. Draining energies in that manner. It is said that Witches were able to have sexual relations with such demons. It is also thought that relations with such can bring forth a pregnancy in a woman.

In the more modern trains of thought the coming forth of the Succubus or Incubus is from repressed sexual feelings.

Both the Succubus and the Incubus are said to hold great beauty. This is said to be used to make then attract to one easier.

Now something else is what is known as "Shadow People"


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Old 17-09-2011, 03:04 AM
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Thanks for the input Lynn. :)
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Old 17-09-2011, 10:16 AM
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I could detail my version of them if you like, though its all from personal experience so it probably wont be in line with what other websites/people write.

Yes please share what you know, if you don't mind. It doesn't matter if what you have to say doesn't "fit". That only makes it more interesting and more useful, like a different puzzle piece.
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Old 17-09-2011, 12:01 PM
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???

How do you define ‘Shadow spirits.’ This could help to provide information.
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Old 17-09-2011, 12:48 PM
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hi mattie, greetings from a fellow Louisiana native. I was born and raised in Houma, LA

I define spirits by how they appear to me visually. "shadow spirits" are literally dark black in appearance. their energy feels heavy and oppressive. their behavior also is different from light spirits, as they seem to be mostly takers, and not givers. they are a little bit tricksy and manipulative, and require some wariness/guardedness when they are around.

just my own definition.
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