Spiritualism! Fact or Fiction?

Originally Posted by deepsea

Let's have your proof.

Not including communication.



Deepsea

Why anyone would care to convince a skeptic, beats me.

If you're truly curious do your own research ... If you don't find communication convincing ... then try yoga , or something you can SEE.

Sorry darlin'....Spiritualism is primarily ABOUT communication...

[psychoslice]

I would have to say that there would be fact, and fiction, just like any belief system.

Originally Posted by Henri77

Why anyone would care to convince a skeptic, beats me.

If you're truly curious do your own research ... If you don't find communication convincing ... then try yoga , or something you can SEE.

Sorry darlin'....Spiritualism is primarily ABOUT communication...

I know that,but I'm trying to find proof without communication.

Deepsea.

[Perfect Storm]

Sounds to me like your having trouble with communication and still need to find proof in other ways (which is ok).

Minus communication, I would have to say my own 'dreams'.

Originally Posted by Athymari

Sounds to me like your having trouble with communication and still need to find proof in other ways (which is ok).

Minus communication, I would have to say my own 'dreams'.

The answer I was looking for....
Yes,in dreams.
Some do not believe that dreams can take us on visits to the spirit world but they can,very much so.

I often ask hubby to show me the spirit world and twice he did that.
Proof was further shown to me by the arrival of an old army mate of his passing to spirit.
This soldier lived into his 70's but was shown as a young man arriving,dressed in army clothes,looking very battle scarred.
The dream was a very lucid dream where every event in it,was remembered.
My proof beyond communication.

Deepsea

Originally Posted by psychoslice

I would have to say that there would be fact, and fiction, just like any belief system.

Fact would be that belief systems exist. And all of them are fiction, in one way or another. This isn't really bad because it opens the space to ask the question "which fictional tale works best for you at the moment?"

Originally Posted by Henri77

Why anyone would care to convince a skeptic, beats me.

If you're truly curious do your own research ... If you don't find communication convincing ... then try yoga , or something you can SEE.

Sorry darlin'....Spiritualism is primarily ABOUT communication...

Sorry darlin' but it ain't....

Spiritualism is a religion and philosophy whose fundamentals (and I stress this is in the UK) are our survival beyond corporeal death and the possibility of communication, via mediumship, with some of those who have passed over.

Communication is simply a part of Spiritualism albeit an important part.

Originally Posted by psychoslice

I would have to say that there would be fact, and fiction, just like any belief system.

Psycho knows, incidentally, that (Modern) Spiritualism isn't a belief system and hence isn't like any belief system....

Originally Posted by deepsea

The answer I was looking for....
Yes,in dreams.
Some do not believe that dreams can take us on visits to the spirit world but they can,very much so.

I often ask hubby to show me the spirit world and twice he did that.
Proof was further shown to me by the arrival of an old army mate of his passing to spirit.
This soldier lived into his 70's but was shown as a young man arriving,dressed in army clothes,looking very battle scarred.
The dream was a very lucid dream where every event in it,was remembered.
My proof beyond communication.

Deepsea

Oh yes -- dreams, visions, out of body experiences, ADCs, NDEs, near-death experiences all show, for me, absolute and undeniable proof of the afterlife which is our life between physical lives...........it is Home......

So many ways to prove spiritualism.
Not only reading books by famous authors,we are taking someone else's word for proof.
But to witness ourselves if that is truly possible,that elusive proof of spirit.
Ah well.......Sighs....