"God is...nothing else is."

[Unseeking Seeker]

God is ...
No quiz!
Just replace I, Me, Mine
With Thee, Thou, Thine!

Devoid of ploy
Bubbles of joy!
Created by the creator
Divine-entwined meditator!

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Ha! Quite the statement, eh?

That basically sums up ACIM... A Course In Miracles...
Well, and Ramana and Nisargadatta.
I dunno...can anything else be said after that !? Hahahahahlol

The statement "God is ... nothing else" strikes me as being pretty much the same as sloganistically saying "Jesus is Lord" or "Allah hu Akbar" (i.e. "Allah is the Greatest").

Pretty much avoids/begs the question/issue of just what is referenced by the words 'God', 'Jesus', and 'Allah', leading everyone who uses such references to (falsely, IMO) think that what he or she thinks such words mean is what they actually reference - and that there really is nothing more that is really worth saying and thinking or talking about.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by davidsun

The statement "God is ... nothing else" strikes me as being pretty much the same as slognanistically saying "Jesus is Lord" or "Allah hu Akbar" (i.e. "Allah is the Greatest").

And then there's "Hare Krishna, Hare Rama" etc. of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyif2010aaY

[Chanine]

Originally Posted by davidsun

The statement "God is ... nothing else" strikes me as being pretty much the same as sloganistically saying "Jesus is Lord" or "Allah hu Akbar" (i.e. "Allah is the Greatest").

Pretty much avoids/begs the question/issue of just what is referenced by the words 'God', 'Jesus', and 'Allah', leading everyone who uses such references to (falsely, IMO) think that what he or she thinks such words mean is what they actually reference - and that there really is nothing more that is really worth saying and thinking or talking about.

The words have no value, the gold is in where one looks

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by Chanine

The words have no value, the gold is in where one looks

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Undeniably!

Thought is a useful tool, at best to choose positioning

After that thought must rest, being limited

With an instrument limited, we cannot access the unlimited

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

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Undeniably!
Thought is a useful tool, at best to choose positioning
After that thought must rest, being limited
With an instrument limited, we cannot access the unlimited

You just can't stop the poet in you!

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

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Undeniably!

Thought is a useful tool, at best to choose positioning

After that thought must rest, being limited

With an instrument limited, we cannot access the unlimited

You and I have quite a different understanding pertaining to how useful 'tools' are, Unseeking Seeker - any kind of 'tool', including thoughts and words.

Here's an analog: how far would a person get if he/she didn't use a shovel (or something like it) to dig holes or ditches to, say, 'set' the foundation of a house or to channel rain water so as to fill a pond or lake?

I am a very practically oriented person, so the 'romanticism' of your non-approach approach as implicit in your screen name (and other utterances such as the one I am am responding to) strike me as being as airy-fairy as meaning-dissing (IMO) slogans such as "Don't worry, be happy," "Love is all your need," etc.

Not that such a non-approach approach to matters being spoken of doesn't register as The Cat's Meeow in the case of many ('romantically inclined'?) people.https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...glish/romantic

Am just sharing an 'alternate' approach to the matters at hand to the dialogic smorgasbord.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by davidsun

You and I have quite a different understanding pertaining to how useful 'tools' are, Unseeking Seeker - any kind of 'tool', including thoughts and words.

Here's an analog: how far would a person get if he/she didn't use a shovel (or something like it) to dig holes or ditches to, say, 'set' the foundation of a house or to channel rain water so as to fill a pond or lake?

I am a very practically oriented person, so the 'romanticism' of your non-approach approach as implicit in your screen name (and other utterances such as the one I am am responding to) strike me as being as airy-fairy as meaning-dissing (IMO) slogans such as "Don't worry, be happy," "Love is all your need," etc.

Not that such a non-approach approach to matters being spoken of doesn't register as The Cat's Meeow in the case of many ('romantically inclined'?) people.https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...glish/romantic

Am just sharing an 'alternate' approach to the matters at hand to the dialogic smorgasbord.

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Agreeing to disagree, respect your journey

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

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Agreeing to disagree, respect your journey

I hope so. My 'journey' includes relating to others using meaningful (as meaningful as I can devise) words. I therefore experience anyone making statements which are dismissive of or which talk 'down' to others' use of 'words' as though they were (relatively) insignificant (instead of thoughtfully engaging with them in, albeit agreed to, disagreement) as being disrespectful in relation to the authors of those words, whether said author be me or someone else.

I am questioning/challenging the value of making simplistic (what I call sloganistic) statements in a discussion forum by the way - though, yes, of course, I agree that others' may prefer and have a right to prefer to use them as 'tools' (maps?) on their journey.

[Rah nam]

"God is...nothing else is."

My point exactly, whether we call it god or something else, there is only One.