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Old 07-05-2017, 05:37 PM
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God did not quite say his name was I AM.

God, in the sense of Yahveh, did not say his name was I AM. He said his name was Yahveh or the Tetragrammaton. People today still ponder what this name means. But it is clear that it is not simply I AM.

I'm with Judaism on this one. I think I AM is a far too simplistic name for something as articulate and ingenious as God. The term I AM just oversimplifies God and makes Him sound like a narcissist.
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:05 PM
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It is traditionally associated with God's essence, revealed to the people intimately in their hearts...and is associated with the divine attribute of mercy. Often the name is associated with being, sometimes translated as I am that I am...

Typically the term Adonai is and has been used...which implied a personal relationship for all (the lord, who is my lord and your lord...). Interestingly, in the modern era, "God" is sometimes used instead of Adonai, the thought being it's a more personal and less hierarchical term...and I think there is something there.

IMO, it's really all about our relationship to the divine, and how we balance the the love and the awe involved.

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It is traditionally associated with God's essence, revealed to the people intimately in their hearts...and is associated with the divine attribute of mercy. Often the name is associated with being, sometimes translated as I am that I am...

Typically the term Adonai is and has been used...which implied a personal relationship for all (the lord, who is my lord and your lord...). Interestingly, in the modern era, "God" is sometimes used instead of Adonai, the thought being it's a more personal and less hierarchical term...and I think there is something there.

IMO, it's really all about our relationship to the divine, and how we balance the the love and the awe involved.

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Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, a highly respected Rabbi from Brooklyn whose books are among the best Jewish books that I've read, has described the "Adonai" in the Shema as "that for which the mind has no category". That is very well put.

However, as another poster wrote, the "I AM" and the "I am...THAT...I AM" work perfectly for me as well......from a purely experiential level.

Let the scholars say whatever they want.
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Old 02-06-2017, 05:04 PM
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Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, a highly respected Rabbi from Brooklyn whose books are among the best Jewish books that I've read, has described the "Adonai" in the Shema as "that for which the mind has no category". That is very well put.

unfortunately, that is jsut another category. Oh well...
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unfortunately, that is jsut another category. Oh well...
In a sense, you are correct, but I think you understand the point I was making.

Some things cannot be expressed in words.
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In a sense, you are correct, but I think you understand the point I was making.

Some things cannot be expressed in words.

hehehe... problem being we always try anyway and that always leads to leading people astray
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Old 17-05-2017, 07:49 PM
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Or...

I AM that...All things.
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Old 18-05-2017, 10:40 PM
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Or...

I AM that...All things.

Yes...Each and All, both this and that.
The fractal God

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'I AM'...haha, reminds me of a little boy that just realizes he exists!
Blurts out with Joy ...I Exist!....I'm Alive!...I AM!


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Old 18-05-2017, 10:46 PM
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'I AM'...haha, reminds me of a little boy that just realizes he exists!
Blurts out with Joy ...I Exist!....I'm Alive!...I AM!



Why did this remind me of Sally Field's "You like me!...You really, really like me!!!" ???

It's the "blurts out with joy" part, right?
And what's the right answer here? Yes, there is a right answer
and YES is always the answer

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