What REALLY created us..?

[psychoslice]

Mere animals?, of course we are animals, in fact we are on a whole more stupid than any animal, if we were not here on this planet, the animals would do very well without us, and the planet would prosper.

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by wstein

Hmm, you seem to be equating 'us' with our physical bodies. Most people are spiritual beings. Their bodies were created from within the physical plane (space-time universe).

My investigation has shown me that the whole physical plane was initiated by a being known as the Farmer. It arranged for this universe to come into being and be allowed to run its course.
The Farmer used pre-existing materials for the most part, so in not technically the 'creator' (as per a rice farmer merely provides the right environment for the rice to grow but did not actually create rice).
Sorry, no clean answer there. As per all the other creation stories, no reason for you to believe my story over any of the others. Its from my experience and investigations but there is no way for you to verify my experience.

As to where the spiritual beings came from I have not been able to tell. I have visited extreme ethereal/abstract realms and know there are beings more primary than your soul, but have not determined which one(s) you came from.

If you are so inclined, advanced OBE or meditation will allow to you to go visit the beings that brought this universe into being. Also you can roam much of creation to see for yourself, no need to take anyone else's word for it.

Someone said we are all, "Sparks of the Eternal Flame".

But WStein, why do you say most people are spiritual beings?. We all have our origins and root apart from time and space, apart from the material world. Our true situation, and personage.
No?

Find the book, "The Way", from the Kabbala Center. Not too long, It's very good!

Psycho:

Mere animals?, of course we are animals, in fact we are on a whole more stupid than any animal, if we were not here on this planet, the animals would do very well without us, and the planet would prosper.

Two things. Animals are more than animals, the way many people think of them. Sometimes, they play the role of Angels, too.

Recently, it's discovered that Plants behave as animals, but, without brains or face, and in a different time framework.

The Universe is born of Consciousness and Light, and it pervades all things.
"Light" and Consciousness is the underlying foundation for everything.
Including the "Inanimate".

In time and space we have origins in the Animal, but our origins, situation and personage transcends time and space, regarding what is Spirit, and presently invisible to our organic senses.

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

But WStein, why do you say most people are spiritual beings?. We all have our origins and root apart from time and space, apart from the material world.

I have taken the time to look into many hundreds of people, less than 10 may not have had a spiritual occupant. Those origins "apart from time and space" remain largely separate entities, they ARE the spirits. Though I don't have much experience with watching people die, those spirits separate from the dying flesh and continue.

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Our true situation, and personage.

I do not have enough experience to quantify how many souls(spirits) in fact have an over-soul (or other even more primary aspect), but I am sure at least some do. Contrary to popular teachings, my experience indicates that the number of 'nestings' (like Russian dolls) is not limited, even over-souls can have over-souls.

[Seawolf]

There has to be countless 'alien' worlds in the Universe. It's revealing that we only see a certain type and believe they are so interested in us. There would be all kinds and would probably have better things to do than fly around over Mexico and the southern US. As for us coming from aliens, I guess it's possible but we're learning more about our evolution every day and how humans got to be the way they are today is becoming less mysterious.

[alexa_summer]

Hey all. Everyone's theories are really interesting!
I have actually been watching on youtube "Matilda O'Donnel Macelroy-Interview with an Alien" & have noticed some very intriguing information..here's the link..it comes in segments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo401KshiHY

But Anyway. This alien believes that we (humans) are extraterrestrials suffering an amnesia on this planet. The reason we can travel outside our bodies (OBE's, Astral Projection) which we have all thought was our "spiritual body" is actually our true, alien form. & that even higher, advanced extraterrestrials do a similar thing, they use some "space suit" (like our human body) as a vehicle to get things done in their world. This alien referred to us as being imprisoned here on Earth. This video is super interesting. You all should check it out!