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17-07-2013, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by psychoslice
If you cannot prove something then keep it to yourself, don't debate with it.
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What you really mean is: don't share with atheists. |
17-07-2013, 05:09 AM
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I too believe in an afterlife. I've had proof. It does'nt matter what others believe. It's not something I would talk about, I have friends and acquaintances who have no idea of my beliefs.
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17-07-2013, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Fetah
But it's actually really distressing to me...to be thought of that way. And to try to think like that...I mean what if there is nothing? And I am just delusional?
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It's called hope. Some people call it faith or belief. Only atheists call it "delusion". Atheists are the most hateful and callous people in the world. Forget about them.
Oh, one more thing. The laws of physics and the physics constants owe their existence to spirit. So all bets are off. |
17-07-2013, 05:43 PM
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I don't believe in the Afterlife, I ''Know'' there is one. But I just pray I get to go there.
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17-07-2013, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazulu
What you really mean is: don't share with atheists.
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No, what I mean is if your going to debate something, make sure you have evidence that can be proved, if not don't debate, at least not with science or atheist.
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17-07-2013, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by IndianaJohal
I don't believe in the Afterlife, I ''Know'' there is one. But I just pray I get to go there.
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How do you know there is one?.
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17-07-2013, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazulu
It's called hope. Some people call it faith or belief. Only atheists call it "delusion". Atheists are the most hateful and callous people in the world. Forget about them.
Oh, one more thing. The laws of physics and the physics constants owe their existence to spirit. So all bets are off.
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You hate atheist because they question your treasured beliefs, you are afraid of them, or at least your ego is.
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17-07-2013, 11:13 PM
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Hello
I do not walk with the hand of God but I do not go to say there is no God, as I have to feel as a Medium there is more to what we are than just a ball of flesh. I talk to the dead, now is that the afterlife or simply the energy that they once were that I connect to I honestly have wondered. I too know well that when I cross someone over that they do go to a place, not to a void in space and time. Now it could be said that its what me mind creates for them to find. Again I trust in that there is something more.
I could well be called an atheist but I am far from being a hateful person, I do much good with the path I walk; yet God is not whom I call to is all. I refer to it as Universal Light.
We should never go to that dark place of hate for anyone or anything as we are all created from the same light seed.
Lynn
Would be nice to see come compassion shared as the 'dead" are reading this as well and they are real.
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17-07-2013, 11:32 PM
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Important to give out the message of survival/what happens when we die. All knowledge is 'registered' even if rejected at the time.
When the time comes... An understanding of the situation should kick in.
If you prevent him from becoming an earthbound spirit you'll have done the sceptic a great act of Service.
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All this talk of religion, but it's how you live your life that is the all-important thing.
If you set out each day to do all the goodness and kindness that you can, and to do no harm to man or beast, then you are walking the highest path.
And when your time is up, if you can leave the earth a better place than you found it, then yours will have been a life well lived.
http://holy-lance.blogspot.com
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18-07-2013, 12:01 AM
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I didn't used to believe in an "afterlife" (actually psychoslice said recently that there IS no afterlife....because we don't die! well said psycho!)
....Anyway, you kind of know what I mean.
I didn't believe stuff because I like to have solid evidence, and I never got any, and guessed it was the sort of thing one doesn't get solid evidence about....so gave up on the whole thing, and spirituality, etc, and just got on with living my life according to principles I hold dear in my Heart anyway, whether "Spirituality" meant anything to me or not.
Then my dog died. Yes I was grieving, but I've grieved before, and never had any revelations. I entertained the idea she might pass over into the spirit world, but honestly had no clue. I also knew we can go out of body. But in times in the past I'd had OBE's it never proved to me one way or the other that we or any other creatures, live after "death"....
Well I started to sense her about a month after she left. Very strongly. I couldn't dismiss these communications, and they were the strongest influence I'd ever known after someone I loved died. They were very living and very moving.
So then I went out of body one morning, fully aware and conscious. Very briefly. But during that 3-minute OBE, I actually encountered my dog, as a vibrant and very much alive creature. Touched her -and she was "real" alright. Real, alive, warm as toast, her actions and behaviour totally "herself" (except she didn't have any trace of sickness any more) A couple of little unexpected things happened in accordance with her character, which illustrated for me, that this was no hallucination/wish fulfillment/denial of grief....etc etc....
That short but tremendous event was hard enough evidence for me. I felt the implications of that experience are that if dogs pass through to a life in spirit -then we all must do.
I honestly don't know about God. I do sense a living God somehow, but am not clever enough to hold a debate about Him/It/Her. It doesn't matter. Just get on with wonder.
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