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07-03-2020, 07:03 AM
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GOSPEL OF THOMAS (new translation)
The Gospel of Thomas is a Gospel that never was canonized.
The Gospel is very short - only 114 verses.
The scriptures that will be presented were paraphrased by myself.
The first posit is that of the first 3 scriptures.
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. . . . . . . . . GOSPEL OF THOMAS
These are the hidden words that the living Jesus
spoke which Didymos Judas Thomas (twin) recorded.
(1) And he said:
"Whoever discovers the meaning of these words, will not taste death."
(2) Jesus said:
"seek till you find.
When you find, you will be dismayed.
When you are dismayed, you will be astonished.
When you are astonished, you will reign over all."
(3) Jesus said:
“If your leaders say to you, ‘Look the Kingdom is in the sky!”
then the birds of the sky will be there before you.
If they say to you, ‘It’s in the Sea,’
then the fish will be there before you.
Rather, the kingdom is inside of you and outside of you."
"When you get to know yourselves,
then you will be known,
and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father.
But if you do not get to know yourselves,
then you will live in poverty, and you are poverty."
Lets openly discuss what the verses say and ponder on why these texts never got canonized.
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Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
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07-03-2020, 04:26 PM
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Master
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It is quite clear: follow only your inner source of knowledge and guidance!
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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07-03-2020, 05:16 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by inavalan
It is quite clear: follow only your inner source of knowledge and guidance!
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Exactly, that's the reason it wasn't very popular as it takes away the power from organized Religions, they wouldn't be needed as it's inner not outer.... |
07-03-2020, 05:49 PM
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Master
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Rather, the kingdom is inside of you and outside of you.
seems like choosing one at the expense of the other may not be the best choice.
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07-03-2020, 05:52 PM
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Master
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(2) Jesus said:
"seek till you find.
When you find, you will be dismayed.
When you are dismayed, you will be astonished.
When you are astonished, you will reign over all."
these aren't idle words. The path REALLY doesn't involve seeking out happiness.
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07-03-2020, 06:35 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
(2) Jesus said:
"seek till you find.
When you find, you will be dismayed.
When you are dismayed, you will be astonished.
When you are astonished, you will reign over all."
these aren't idle words. The path REALLY doesn't involve seeking out happiness.
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You have to realize the Gospel of Thomas was not canonized.
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Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
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21-02-2021, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
(2) Jesus said:
"seek till you find.
When you find, you will be dismayed.
When you are dismayed, you will be astonished.
When you are astonished, you will reign over all."
these aren't idle words. The path REALLY doesn't involve seeking out happiness.
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Trouble is, you're reading translations of which there are several. The words used signify different things to different people.
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07-03-2020, 06:58 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
Rather, the kingdom is inside of you and outside of you.
seems like choosing one at the expense of the other may not be the best choice.
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Surely, everybody understands whatever they already believe.
There isn't a matter of "choosing one at the expense of the other". It is about the inner reality being the source of the outer reality. Thought before mater.
It is like you vs your dreams. It isn't a matter of choosing you at the expense of your dreams or vice versa.
Here "Father" is the father-figure, the source of knowledge and guidance, not even as creator. And "poverty" is stagnation of knowledge and evolvement.
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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07-03-2020, 10:55 PM
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Master
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never mind.
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25-02-2021, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
Rather, the kingdom is inside of you and outside of you.
seems like choosing one at the expense of the other may not be the best choice.
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Acceptance of reality is important.
It is not either inside or outside. It is both.
This is even scientifically provable, if definitions can be agreed upon.
We live in the best of all possible worlds, Heaven, because this is the only possible world, given our history.
Regards
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